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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-audit@redhat.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/12] pid: rewrite task helper functions avoiding task->pid and task->tgid
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:15:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130827161536.GA29147@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130826220711.GA21098@madcap2.tricolour.ca>

On 08/26, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 09:08:48PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 08/20, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > >
> > >  static inline int is_global_init(struct task_struct *tsk)
> > >  {
> > > -	return tsk->pid == 1;
> > > +	return task_pid_nr(tsk) == 1;
> > >  }
> >
> > Probably it would be better to simply kill it. Almost every usage is
> > wrong.
>
> Can you be more clear?  I don't follow.  It should instead return a
> boolean.  Usage of is_global_init() or task_pid_nr()?

Just look at the callers. For example, how is_global_init() can save
/sbin/init from oom-killer if it is multithreaded ?

> If is_global_init(), is that because they could be unaware of pid
> namespaces?

Because I think nobody actually needs is_a_group_leader_of_global_init(),
and this is what this helper actually is.

> > >  static inline bool is_idle_task(const struct task_struct *p)
> > >  {
> > > -	return p->pid == 0;
> > > +	return task_pid(p) == &init_struct_pid;
> > >  }
> >
> > hmm. there should be a simpler check for this...
>
> Other than the original, this one is pretty simple.

I meant that the original check is cheaper,

> What did you have
> in mind?

Well. I agree that it would be nice to avoid the dependence on task->pid
if possible. And perhaps even kill it eventually. But I am not sure how
much we should try.

If it was the last user of ->pid, then I would agree with this change.
Although we can make it cheaper, say, we can change idle_init() to
nullify tasks->next and use ->next == NULL.

But we have a lot more ->pid users, perhaps we should change them first.

And more importantly, let me repeat. I do not think that this change
should be mixed with other changes in this series.

> > >  static inline int has_group_leader_pid(struct task_struct *p)
> > >  {
> > > -	return p->pid == p->tgid;
> > > +	return task_pid(p) == task_tgid(p);
> > >  }
> > >
> > >  static inline
> > >  int same_thread_group(struct task_struct *p1, struct task_struct *p2)
> > >  {
> > > -	return p1->tgid == p2->tgid;
> > > +	return task_tgid(p1) == task_tgid(p2);
> >
> > This is suboptinal. See the attached
> > include-linux-schedh-dont-use-task-pid-tgid-in-same_thread_group-has_group_leader_pid.patch
> > from -mm below.
>
> I'm fine with that if it is deemed better.  The point was to remove the
> dependence on task_struct::tgid.

But I agree! My only point was, this conflicts with the patch we already
have and that patch is more optimal. p1->leader == p2->leader is cheaper.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-27 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-20 21:31 [PATCH 00/12] RFC: steps to make audit pid namespace-safe Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 01/12] audit: Kill the unused struct audit_aux_data_capset Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 02/12] audit: fix netlink portid naming and types Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 03/12] pid: get ppid pid_t of task in init_pid_ns safely Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 17:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-30 19:56     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-30 20:37       ` John Johansen
2013-08-30 22:41         ` [PATCH 1/3] apparmor: fix capability to not use the current task, during reporting John Johansen
2013-08-30 22:42         ` [PATCH 2/3] apparmor: remove tsk field from the apparmor_audit_struct John Johansen
2013-08-30 22:43         ` [PATCH 03/3] apparmor: remove parent task info from audit logging John Johansen
2013-09-03 18:31         ` [PATCH 03/12] pid: get ppid pid_t of task in init_pid_ns safely Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-11 14:47           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-11 16:44             ` John Johansen
2013-12-11 17:19               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 04/12] audit: convert PPIDs to the inital PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 05/12] pid: get pid_t of task in init_pid_ns correctly Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 06/12] audit: Simplify and correct audit_log_capset Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 07/12] audit: store audit_pid as a struct pid pointer Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 08/12] audit: anchor all pid references in the initial pid namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 09/12] pid: modify task_pid_nr to work without task->pid Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-16 21:03   ` [PATCH] pid: change task_struct::pid to read-only Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-17  9:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-20  4:48       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-20  8:58         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-20 14:04           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32           ` [PATCH 0/7][RFC] pid: changes to support audit Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32             ` [PATCH 1/7] pid: change task_struct::pid to read-only Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32             ` [PATCH 2/7] compiler: CONST_CAST makes writing const vars easier and obvious Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32             ` [PATCH 3/7] pid: use the CONST_CAST macro instead to write to const task_struct::pid Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32             ` [PATCH 4/7] pid: modify task_tgid_nr to work without task->tgid Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 18:35               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-21 20:47                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-24 18:40                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-23 19:32             ` [PATCH 5/7] pid: rewrite task helper function is_global_init() avoiding task->pid Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 18:39               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-21 16:10                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32             ` [PATCH 6/7] pid: mark struct task const in helper functions Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32             ` [PATCH 7/7] pid: get pid_t ppid of task in init_pid_ns Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 19:01               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-21 18:10                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-24 18:32                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-17 20:14               ` Tony Luck
2014-03-17 20:15                 ` Eric Paris
2014-01-23 21:25             ` [PATCH 0/7][RFC] pid: changes to support audit Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-24  6:14               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-24  8:52                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-24 14:31                   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 16:18             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 17:47               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-19 18:15                 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 19:08                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-17  9:59     ` [PATCH] pid: change task_struct::pid to read-only Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-17 15:36     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-17 15:40       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-20 19:01         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-20 20:19           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-20 21:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-22 16:03             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-23 19:24               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 10/12] pid: modify task_tgid_nr to work without task->tgid Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 11/12] pid: rewrite task helper functions avoiding task->pid and task->tgid Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-22 19:08   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 22:07     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 16:15       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2013-12-16 17:35       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-16 21:05         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-16 22:20           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-17  9:34             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-17  9:48               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-20  4:54               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-22 20:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-22 21:43     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-23  6:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-27  2:37         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 12:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-27 21:35             ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-08-28  8:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-23 19:28       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-27  3:04         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 17:11           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-30 19:06             ` audit looks unmaintained? [was: Re: [PATCH 11/12] pid: rewrite task helper functions avoiding task->pid and task->tgid] Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-30 19:54               ` Steve Grubb
2013-09-08 15:54                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-09-10 17:20                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-09-13 18:42                     ` Steve Grubb
2013-09-14 18:10                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-09-13 18:28                   ` Steve Grubb
2013-09-14 18:08                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 12/12] pid: mark struct task const in helper functions Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27 ` [PATCH 0/5][RFC][v2] steps to make audit pid namespace-safe Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27   ` [PATCH 1/5] pid: get pid_t ppid of task in init_pid_ns Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 17:04     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-23 22:27   ` [PATCH 2/5] audit: convert PPIDs to the inital PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 17:07     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-23 22:27   ` [PATCH 3/5] audit: store audit_pid as a struct pid pointer Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 17:51     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-21 23:37       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27   ` [PATCH 4/5] audit: anchor all pid references in the initial pid namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 18:06     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-19 20:28       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27   ` [PATCH 5/5] audit: allow user processes to log from another PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57   ` [PATCH 0/5][RFC][v3] steps to make audit pid namespace-safe Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57     ` [PATCH 1/5] pid: get pid_t ppid of task in init_pid_ns Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57     ` [PATCH 2/5] audit: convert PPIDs to the inital PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57     ` [PATCH 3/5] audit: store audit_pid as a struct pid pointer Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57     ` [PATCH 4/5] audit: anchor all pid references in the initial pid namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57     ` [PATCH 5/5] audit: allow user processes to log from another PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs

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