From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Takuya Yoshikawa <takuya.yoshikawa@gmail.com>
Cc: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
avi.kivity@gmail.com, mtosatti@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/12] KVM: MMU: locklessly wirte-protect
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:16:06 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130829071606.GY22899@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130803140943.3e09bbcda47693789df06315@gmail.com>
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 02:09:43PM +0900, Takuya Yoshikawa wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:01:58 +0800
> Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > Background
> > ==========
> > Currently, when mark memslot dirty logged or get dirty page, we need to
> > write-protect large guest memory, it is the heavy work, especially, we need to
> > hold mmu-lock which is also required by vcpu to fix its page table fault and
> > mmu-notifier when host page is being changed. In the extreme cpu / memory used
> > guest, it becomes a scalability issue.
> >
> > This patchset introduces a way to locklessly write-protect guest memory.
>
> Nice improvements!
>
> If I read the patch set correctly, this work contains the following changes:
>
> Cleanups:
> Patch 1 and patch 12.
>
Yes, do not see the reason to not apply 1 straightaway. 12 depends on
other patches though.
> Lazy large page dropping for dirty logging:
> Patch 2-3.
> Patch 2 is preparatory to patch 3.
>
> This does not look like an RFC if you address Marcelo's comment.
> Any reason to include this in an RFC patch set?
Agree, you can post them separately for faster inclusion.
>
> Making remote TLBs flushable outside of mmu_lock for dirty logging:
> Patch 6.
>
> This is nice. I'm locally using a similar patch for my work, but yours
> is much cleaner and better. I hope this will get merged soon.
>
But without other patches this patch itself doesn't do much, no?
> New Pte-list handling:
> Patch 7-9.
>
> Still reading the details.
>
> RCU-based lockless write protection.
> Patch 10-11.
>
> If I understand RCU correctly, the current implementation has a problem:
> read-side critical sections can become too long.
>
> See the following LWN's article:
> "Sleepable RCU"
> https://lwn.net/Articles/202847/
>
> Especially, kvm_mmu_slot_remove_write_access() can take hundreds of
> milliseconds, or even a few seconds for guests using shadow paging.
> Is it possible to break the read-side critical section after protecting
> some pages? -- I guess so.
>
> Anyway, I want to see the following non-RFC quality patches get merged first:
> - Lazy large page dropping for dirty logging:
> - Making remote TLBs flushable outside of mmu_lock for dirty logging
>
> As you are doing in patch 11, the latter can eliminate the TLB flushes before
> cond_resched_lock(). So this alone is an optimization, and since my work is
> based on this TLB flush-less lock breaking, I would appriciate if you make this
> change first in your clean way.
>
> The remaining patches, pte-list refactoring and lock-less ones, also look
> interesting, but I need to read more to understand them.
>
> Thanks for the nice work!
Indeed. FWIW I completed the review and am waiting for a new version.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-29 7:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-30 13:01 [RFC PATCH 00/12] KVM: MMU: locklessly wirte-protect Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:01 ` [PATCH 01/12] KVM: MMU: remove unused parameter Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-29 7:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 13:02 ` [PATCH 02/12] KVM: MMU: properly check last spte in fast_page_fault() Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:02 ` [PATCH 03/12] KVM: MMU: lazily drop large spte Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-02 14:55 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-08-02 15:42 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-02 20:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-08-02 22:56 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:02 ` [PATCH 04/12] KVM: MMU: log dirty page after marking spte writable Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-31 7:25 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-07 1:48 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-08-07 4:06 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-08 15:06 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-08-08 16:26 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-20 0:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-20 0:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-20 14:20 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-20 19:47 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-21 4:26 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:02 ` [PATCH 05/12] KVM: MMU: add spte into rmap before logging dirty page Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-31 7:33 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:02 ` [PATCH 06/12] KVM: MMU: flush tlb if the spte can be locklessly modified Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-28 7:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-28 7:50 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:02 ` [PATCH 07/12] KVM: MMU: redesign the algorithm of pte_list Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-28 8:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-28 8:37 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-28 8:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-28 9:19 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:02 ` [PATCH 08/12] KVM: MMU: introduce nulls desc Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-28 8:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-28 8:54 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:02 ` [PATCH 09/12] KVM: MMU: introduce pte-list lockless walker Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-28 9:20 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-28 9:33 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-28 9:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-28 10:13 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-28 10:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-28 12:15 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-28 13:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-29 6:50 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-29 9:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-29 9:31 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-29 9:51 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-29 11:26 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-30 11:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-02 7:02 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-29 9:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-29 11:33 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-29 12:02 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-30 11:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-02 8:50 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:02 ` [PATCH 10/12] KVM: MMU: allow locklessly access shadow page table out of vcpu thread Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-07 13:09 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-08-07 13:19 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-29 9:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-29 9:25 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:02 ` [PATCH 11/12] KVM: MMU: locklessly write-protect the page Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:02 ` [PATCH 12/12] KVM: MMU: clean up spte_write_protect Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-30 13:11 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] KVM: MMU: locklessly wirte-protect Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-03 5:09 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-08-04 14:15 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-29 7:16 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-08-06 13:16 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-08-08 17:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 4:51 ` Xiao Guangrong
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