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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@infradead.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] perf changes for v3.12
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 12:56:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130905105639.GB21407@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyyJpCC0EFfPpGYi+6goWbA+LZbrkFcLNW3x8xYHfKvdQ@mail.gmail.com>


(Cc:-ed Frederic and Namhyung as well, it's about bad overhead in 
tools/perf/util/hist.c.)

* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Please pull the latest perf-core-for-linus git tree from:
> 
> I don't think this is new at all, but I just tried to do a perf
> record/report of "make -j64 test" on git:
> 
> It's a big perf.data file (1.6G), but after it has done the
> "processing time ordered events" thing it results in:
> 
> ┌─Warning:───────────────────────────────────┐
> │Processed 8672030 events and lost 71 chunks!│
> │Check IO/CPU overload!                      │
> │                                            │
> │                                            │
> │Press any key...                            │
> └────────────────────────────────────────────┘
> 
> and then it just hangs using 100% CPU time. Pressing any key doesn't
> do anything.
> 
> It may well still be *doing* something, and maybe it will come back
> some day with results. But it sure doesn't show any indication that it
> will.
> 
> Try this (in a current git source tree: note, by "git" I actually mean
> git itself, not some random git repository)::
> 
>     perf record -g -e cycles:pp make -j64 test >& out
>     perf report
> 
> maybe you can reproduce it.

I managed to reproduce it on a 32-way box via:

     perf record -g make -j64 bzImage >/dev/null 2>&1

It's easier to debug it without the TUI:

     perf --no-pages report --stdio

It turns out that even with a 400 MB perf.data the 'perf report' call will 
eventually finish - here it ran for almost half an hour(!) on a fast box.

Arnaldo, the large overhead is in hists__collapse_resort(), in particular 
it's doing append_chain_children() 99% of the time:

-  99.74%  perf  perf               [.] append_chain_children                                                         ◆
   - append_chain_children                                                                                            ▒
      - 99.76% merge_chain_branch                                                                                     ▒
         - merge_chain_branch                                                                                         ▒
            + 98.04% hists__collapse_resort                                                                           ▒
            + 1.96% merge_chain_branch                                                                                ▒
+   0.05%  perf  perf               [.] merge_chain_branch                                                            ▒
+   0.03%  perf  libc-2.17.so       [.] _int_free                                                                     ▒
+   0.03%  perf  libc-2.17.so       [.] __libc_calloc                                                                 ▒
+   0.02%  perf  [kernel.kallsyms]  [k] account_user_time                                                             ▒
+   0.02%  perf  libc-2.17.so       [.] _int_malloc                                                                   ▒

It seems to be stuck in hists__collapse_resort().

In particular the overhead arises because the following loop in 
append_chain_children():

        /* lookup in childrens */
        chain_for_each_child(rnode, root) {
                unsigned int ret = append_chain(rnode, cursor, period);

Reaches very long counts and the algorithm gets quadratic (at least). The 
child count reaches over 100,000 entries in the end (!).

I don't think the high child count in itself is anomalous: a kernel build 
generates thousands of processes, tons of symbol ranges and tens of 
millions of call chain entries.

So I think what we need here is to speed up the lookup: put children into 
a secondary, ->pos,len indexed range-rbtree and do a binary search instead 
of a linear search over 100,000 child entries ... or something like that.

Btw., a side note, append_chain() is a rather confusing function in 
itself, with logic-inversion gems like:

                if (!found)
                        found = true;

All that should be cleaned up as well I guess.

The 'IO overload' message appears to be a separate, unrelated bug, it just 
annoyingly does not get refreshed away in the TUI before 
hists__collapse_resort() is called, and there's also no progress bar for 
the hists__collapse_resort() pass, so to the user it all looks like a 
deadlock.

So there's at least two bugs here:

  - the bad overhead in hists__collapse_resort()

  - bad usability if hists__collapse_resort() takes more than 1 second to finish

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-05 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-03 13:29 [GIT PULL] perf changes for v3.12 Ingo Molnar
2013-09-03 13:37 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-09-03 13:43   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-03 17:02 ` Vince Weaver
2013-09-04 17:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-05 10:56   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-09-05 12:42     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-05 12:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-05 12:58         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-10  8:06       ` Namhyung Kim
2013-09-10 11:18         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-05 13:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-08  2:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-09 10:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-10 11:28     ` Stephane Eranian
2013-09-10 11:53       ` PEBS bug on HSW: "Unexpected number of pebs records 10" (was: Re: [GIT PULL] perf changes for v3.12) Ingo Molnar
2013-09-10 12:32         ` Stephane Eranian
2013-09-10 12:42           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-10 12:51           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-10 12:55             ` Stephane Eranian
2013-09-10 13:22               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-10 13:38           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-10 14:15             ` Stephane Eranian
2013-09-10 14:29               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-10 14:34                 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-09-10 17:14                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-16 11:07                     ` Stephane Eranian
2013-09-16 15:41                       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-16 16:29                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-17  7:00                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-23 15:25                           ` Stephane Eranian
2013-09-23 15:33                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-23 17:11                               ` Stephane Eranian
2013-09-23 17:24                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-10 15:28               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-10 16:14                 ` Stephane Eranian

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