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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	edumazet@google.com, darren@dvhart.com,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	sbw@mit.edu, Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kbuild <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 8/9] nohz_full: Add full-system-idle state machine
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:30:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130906173047.GT3966@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWtZAD3G_miFOT9DPZpfTO3nJ9J4aG_zvHV_6eVf2jdQg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 10:08:22AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Paul E. McKenney
> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > --- a/kernel/time/Kconfig
> > +++ b/kernel/time/Kconfig
> > @@ -157,6 +157,33 @@ config NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE
> >
> >          Say N if you are unsure.
> >
> > +config NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE_SMALL
> > +       int "Number of CPUs above which large-system approach is used"
> > +       depends on NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE
> > +       range 1 NR_CPUS
> 
> This causes "kernel/time/Kconfig:162:warning: range is invalid" on m68k and
> all other architectures that do not support SMP.
> 
> How to reproduce:
>     make ARCH=m68k defconfig

OK, this does complain, but seems to give a reasonable .config file.
(From what I can tell.)  It would clearly be good to get rid of the
complaint.

> Furthermore, it seems only hexagon, metag, mips, and x86 set NR_CPUS to 1
> if !SMP. On other architectures, NR_CPUS is not defined and presumed to be 0.

Would it make sense to require that NR_CPUS=1 for !SMP?

> Hence in non-interactive configs (e.g. "make defconfig"),
> NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE_SMALL will end up as 0.
> In interactive configs (e.g. "make oldconfig") Kconfig suggest "0" as
> the default,
> but refuses to accept it as it doesn't fall within the range 1..0.
> 
> How to reproduce:
>     Remove the "depends on NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE"
>     make ARCH=powerpc mpc83xx_defconfig
>     grep NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE_SMALL .config
>     -> CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE_SMALL=0
>     sed 's/CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE_SMALL=0//g' -i .config
>     make ARCH=powerpc oldconfig
>     -> no value is accepted

If it turns out that there is some reason by NR_CPUS=1 is impossible,
there are a few things that I could do:

I could just leave the range off, which would allow people to give
nonsense values.  This would be harmless in the code, for example,
a negative value would simply disable small-system handling, while
a too-large value would similarly disable large-system handling.
Might be a bit obnoxious for the guy who typoed and then wasted a
kernel build/boot/test cycle, but it is an option.

I could use a small fixed range (say from 1 to 64), which would
provide at least some checking.  In the unlikely event that someone
really wants more than 64 CPUs handled with small-system handling,
we could revisit at that point.

I tried creating a NR_CPUS_REALLY as follows:

config NR_CPUS_REALLY
	int "Fixed version of NR_CPUS"
	default NR_CPUS if NR_CPUS
	default 1 if !NR_CPUS

But this still gave a warning on the first "default" even though it
was not in effect.  I also tried using Kconfig "if":

if SMP
config NR_CPUS_REALLY
	int "Fixed version of NR_CPUS"
	default NR_CPUS
endif
if !SMP
config NR_CPUS_REALLY
	int "Fixed version of NR_CPUS"
	default 1 if !SMP
endif

However, Kconfig complained about the use of NR_CPUS even though this
was under an "if" whose condition was not set.  Perhaps someone with
better Kconfig-fu than I have can come up with something.

Defining NR_CPUS=1 if !SMP is looking pretty good to me just now.
This would probably have other benefits -- I cannot be the only
person who ever wanted this.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-06 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-20  2:47 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/9] v2 sysidle changes for 3.12 Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-20  2:47 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Eliminate unused APIs intended for adaptive ticks Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-20  2:47   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 2/9] nohz_full: Add testing information to documentation Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-20  2:47   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 3/9] nohz_full: Add Kconfig parameter for scalable detection of all-idle state Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-20  2:47   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 4/9] nohz_full: Add rcu_dyntick data " Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-20  2:47   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 5/9] nohz_full: Add per-CPU idle-state tracking Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-20  2:47   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 6/9] nohz_full: Add full-system idle states and variables Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-20  2:47   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 7/9] nohz_full: Add full-system-idle arguments to API Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-20  2:47   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 8/9] nohz_full: Add full-system-idle state machine Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-26  5:45     ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-26 16:24       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-27  3:41         ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-31 21:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-06  8:08     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-06 17:30       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-09-06 18:50         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-06 19:32           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-07 11:22           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-07 18:59             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-07  9:13         ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-07 18:57           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-08 10:32             ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-08 10:46               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-20  2:47   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 9/9] nohz_full: Force RCU's grace-period kthreads onto timekeeping CPU Paul E. McKenney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-08-18  1:49 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/9] sysidle changes for v3.12 Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:49 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Eliminate unused APIs intended for adaptive ticks Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-18  1:49   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 8/9] nohz_full: Add full-system-idle state machine Paul E. McKenney

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