From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, George Spelvin <linux@horizon.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eldad Zack <eldad@fogrefinery.com>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vsprintf: drop comment claiming %n is ignored
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:17:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130914021755.GY13318@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJxJVK7cu2Sc4Sdng_rLDL8ziC6aecAi7G0zL4fYnY-9Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 04:03:25PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> Maybe I missed this somewhere in the thread, but I'm not sure I
> understand the move to "void". Here's what I see, please correct me:
>
> 1- seq_printf currently returns success/failure
> 2- some callers of seq_printf (correctly) use the return value as
> success/failure indication
Not all uses as success/failure are right, at that - you should *NOT*
return non-zero from ->show() on overflow. Ever. It should only
happen when you have a hard error and do *not* want the operation
retried. On success ->show() returns zero - not the number of characters
written or anything like that.
> 3- some callers of seq_printf (incorrectly) use the return value as a
> length indication
> 4- both success/failure and length are important outputs from seq_printf
Not really. Success/failure is used if you want to optimize ->show() a bit;
usually you don't. Again, failure == overflow and it's both rare *and*
will cause all subsequent seq_...() to be no-ops until the retry. Which
retry will follow. Shortly.
> 5- we need a way to access the length written during the call
_Very_ rarely. And I'd seriously suggest the use of %n in such cases.
> 6- want to minimize impact on the code base
Majority of the code base simply calls seq_printf() without caring what
it returns. Very small minority is broken and needs to be fixed.
> Due to 1 and 2, it seems like there's no sense in changing the return
> value to void. Success/failure is already returned, and there are
> users of it. No sense changing them.
... most of them incorrect.
> The normal way to handle multiple return values (4 and 5) is to add a
> pointer argument. For example: seq_printf(s, &len, fmt, args...) where
> len can be NULL. But this runs against 6.
>
> Due to 6, to solve 4 and 5, usually macro or inline tricks are used,
> for example:
>
> __printf(3, 4) int seq_printf_len(struct seq_file *, size_t *len, ...);
> #define seq_printf(s, fmt, ...) seq_printf_len(s, NULL, fmt, ##__VA_ARGS__)
>
> With this, solving 3 becomes possible (your void patch has already
> detected all the users of the return value, so we can sort out which
> expect length and which expect success/failure), and lets us actually
> remove the %n uses trivially too.
Consider that NAKed. Reason: fucking ugly and pointless at the same time.
I don't believe that seq_printf() itself needs to be changed at all (or that
%n should be removed, actually). Callers should be audited and fixed, of
course. With dire warnings added to seq_file.[ch]. And no, it shouldn't
be returning void - the current calling conventions are actually right.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-14 2:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-11 19:30 [PATCH] vsprintf: drop comment claiming %n is ignored Kees Cook
2013-09-11 20:06 ` Joe Perches
2013-09-11 20:18 ` Kees Cook
2013-09-11 20:20 ` Joe Perches
2013-09-11 20:30 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-09-11 20:28 ` Joe Perches
2013-09-13 19:53 ` George Spelvin
2013-09-13 22:27 ` Joe Perches
2013-09-13 23:03 ` Kees Cook
2013-09-13 23:23 ` Joe Perches
2013-09-16 2:53 ` George Spelvin
2013-09-14 2:17 ` Al Viro [this message]
2013-09-14 2:49 ` Tetsuo Handa
2013-09-14 3:05 ` Al Viro
2013-09-14 3:48 ` Al Viro
2013-09-14 4:53 ` Al Viro
2013-09-14 5:26 ` Joe Perches
2013-09-12 7:03 ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-12 7:31 ` Kees Cook
2013-09-12 7:51 ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-12 7:57 ` Dan Carpenter
2013-09-13 19:49 ` George Spelvin
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