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From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Ludovic Desroches <ludovic.desroches@atmel.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
	nicolas.ferre@atmel.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marc Pignat <marc.pignat@hevs.ch>,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, kernel@pengutronix.de,
	Ronald Wahl <ronald.wahl@raritan.com>,
	LAK <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] clockevents: Sanitize ticks to nsec conversion
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:09:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130918150958.GO24802@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1309181058470.4089@ionos.tec.linutronix.de>

Hello Thomas,

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:38:07AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2013, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > Now we can easily verify whether the whole equation fits into the
> > > 64bit boundary. Shifting the "clc" result back by evt->shift MUST
> > > result in "latch". If that's not the case, we have a clear indicator
> > But this is only the case if evt->mult is <= (1 << evt->shift). Is this
> > always given?
> 
> Crap, no. It's only true for device frequency <= 1GHz. Good catch!
> 
> > Is it more sensible to adjust dev->max_delta_ns once at register time
> > and so save the often recurrent overflow check in
> > clockevents_program_event?
> 
> Which overflow check are you talking about?
> 
> There is only the boundary check:
> 
>         delta = min(delta, (int64_t) dev->max_delta_ns);
>         delta = max(delta, (int64_t) dev->min_delta_ns);
> 
> Which sensible adjustment at register time is going to remove that?
My idea was that wouldn't need to add

	if ((clc >> evt->shift) != (u64)latch)
		...

to clockevent_delta2ns (not clockevents_program_event as I wrote) if
dev->max_delta_ns was small enough. So max_delta_ns would be the minimum
of the hardware limit and the value to prevent an overflow. Not sure any
more that this works though.

> > Another doubt I have is: You changed clockevent_delta2ns to round up now
> > unconditionally. For the numbers on at91 that doesn't matter, but I
> > wonder if there are situations that make the timer core violate the
> > max_delta_ticks condition now.
> 
> And how so? The + (mult - 1) ensures, that the conversion back to
> ticks results in the same value as latch. So how should it violate
> the max boundary?
That is wrong:
With max_delta_ticks << shift = n * mult - k for k in [0 .. mult-1] and
an integer n:

	  (max_delta_ns * mult) >> shift
	= ((((max_delta_ticks << shift) + mult - 1) / mult) * mult) >> shift
	= (((n * mult - k + mult - 1) / mult) * mult) >> shift
	= n * mult >> shift
	= ((max_delta_ticks << shift) + k) >> shift
	= max_delta_ticks + (k >> shift)

k >> shift is only known to be zero if mult <= 1 << shift (i.e. the same
condition as above where your 64bit overflow detection is wrong). So
this can result in values > max_delta_ticks.

> Math is hard, right?
Yes, if it involves integer division and overflow handling it's hard to
come up with correct solutions during shopping. ;-)
 
> > > for boundary violation and can limit "clc" to (1 << 63) - 1 before the
> > Where does this magic constant come from?
> 
> Rolling my magic hex dice gave me that.
Wow, how many sides does your dice have? Couldn't it have choosen
(u64)-1 for improved results?

Best regards
Uwe

-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-König            |
Industrial Linux Solutions                 | http://www.pengutronix.de/  |

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-18 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-13 13:02 [PATCH] [PATCH] clocksource: tcb: fix min_delta calculation Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found] ` <20130917095600.GJ26819@ludovic.desroches@atmel.com>
2013-09-17 10:04   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-09-17 11:26     ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]       ` <20130917130153.GL26819@ludovic.desroches@atmel.com>
2013-09-17 21:15         ` [PATCH] clockevents: Sanitize ticks to nsec conversion Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-17 22:25           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2013-09-17 23:20             ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-18  8:56           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2013-09-18  9:38             ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-18 15:09               ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2013-09-18 22:01                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-19 10:02                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2013-09-19 10:15                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-19 12:48                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2013-09-19 13:12                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-19 14:30                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-19 20:03                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2013-09-20  9:56                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-20 20:41                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2013-09-20 21:30                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-24 19:50                           ` [PATCH v2] " Uwe Kleine-König
2013-09-24 21:11                             ` Timekeeping on at91rm9200 [Was: [PATCH v2] clockevents: Sanitize ticks to nsec conversion] Uwe Kleine-König
2013-10-04 10:00                               ` Nicolas Ferre
2013-09-24 21:16                             ` [PATCH v2] clockevents: Sanitize ticks to nsec conversion Uwe Kleine-König
2013-10-08 10:08                             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2013-10-08 15:31                               ` [GIT PULL] fixes for integer rounding in timer core (Was: [PATCH v2] clockevents: Sanitize ticks to nsec conversion) Uwe Kleine-König
2013-10-14  7:34                                 ` [GIT PULL] fixes for integer rounding in timer core Uwe Kleine-König
2013-10-16 14:19                                   ` Nicolas Ferre
2013-10-21  7:12                                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2013-10-21 20:53                                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-10-23 10:56                             ` [tip:timers/urgent] clockevents: Sanitize ticks to nsec conversion tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner

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