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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, jan.kiszka@siemens.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] KVM: Make kvm_lock non-raw
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 12:53:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130922095348.GJ25202@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <523EAFFA.6060203@redhat.com>

On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:53:14AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 22/09/2013 09:42, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
> > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 04:06:10PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >> Paul Gortmaker reported a BUG on preempt-rt kernels, due to taking the
> >> mmu_lock within the raw kvm_lock in mmu_shrink_scan.  He provided a
> >> patch that shrunk the kvm_lock critical section so that the mmu_lock
> >> critical section does not nest with it, but in the end there is no reason
> >> for the vm_list to be protected by a raw spinlock.  Only manipulations
> >> of kvm_usage_count and the consequent hardware_enable/disable operations
> >> are not preemptable.
> >>
> >> This small series thus splits the kvm_lock in the "raw" part and the
> >> "non-raw" part.
> >>
> >> Paul, could you please provide your Tested-by?
> >>
> > Reviewed-by: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
> > 
> > But why should it go to stable?
> 
> It is a regression from before the kvm_lock was made raw.  Secondarily,
It was made raw in 2.6.39 and commit message claims that it is done for
-rt sake, why regression was noticed only now?

> it takes a much longer time before a patch hits -rt trees (can even be
> as much as a year) and this patch does nothing on non-rt trees.  So
> without putting it into stable it would get no actual coverage.
> 
The change is not completely trivial, it splits lock. There is no
obvious problem of course, otherwise you wouldn't send it and I
would ack it :), but it does not mean that the chance for problem is
zero, so why risk stability of stable even a little bit if the patch
does not fix anything in stable?

I do not know how -rt development goes and how it affects decisions for
stable acceptance, why can't they carry the patch in their tree until
they move to 3.12?

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-22  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-16 14:06 [PATCH 0/3] KVM: Make kvm_lock non-raw Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 14:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] KVM: cleanup (physical) CPU hotplug Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-17  7:57   ` Jan Kiszka
2013-09-17 23:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 14:06 ` [PATCH 2/3] KVM: protect kvm_usage_count with its own spinlock Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 14:06 ` [PATCH 3/3] KVM: Convert kvm_lock back to non-raw spinlock Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 22:12 ` [PATCH 0/3] KVM: Make kvm_lock non-raw Paul Gortmaker
2013-09-20 17:51   ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-09-20 18:04     ` Jan Kiszka
2013-09-20 18:18       ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-09-20 18:27         ` Jan Kiszka
2013-09-21 20:26       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-22  7:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-22  8:53   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-22  9:53     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-09-23  6:30       ` Jan Kiszka
2013-09-23 13:36       ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-09-23 13:44         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-23 14:59           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-23 15:05             ` Paolo Bonzini

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