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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>
Cc: Yves Vandervennet <rocket.yvanderv@gmail.com>,
	Alan Tull <atull@altera.com>, Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@altera.com>,
	Philip Balister <philip@balister.org>,
	Alessandro Rubini <rubini@gnudd.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <m.chehab@samsung.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Cesar Eduardo Barros <cesarb@cesarb.net>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	David Brown <davidb@codeaurora.org>,
	Dom Cobley <popcornmix@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] fpga: Introduce new fpga subsystem
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:10:29 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130923171029.GA29429@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52403DB3.1080902@monstr.eu>

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 03:10:11PM +0200, Michal Simek wrote:

> > 1) The driver doesn't know what firmware to request. It just knows
> >    how to send it to a FPGA.
> 
> But dts property in the manager driver which uses this as end driver
> can know that.

I think the device tree maintainers would push back on this since it
is not "describing the hardware"
 
> > 2) Telling the kernel a filename via sysfs and then having it go
> >    around the long way via request_firwmare to get the data is silly.
> >    Just give the kernel the actual data instead of a file name
> 
> Firmware interface is valid way how to pass bitstream to the kernel.
> If you don't like just don't use it. For example you can add
> firmware blob directly to the kernel and load this at bootup phase
> without user-space access.

I'm not against using request firmware for what it is ment for: having
the kernel autonomously load firmware.

I am against the sysfs API in the core code where userspace writes a
file name that is then used to request_firwmare. That is a goofy API
for the reasons I outlined.

It is appropriate to use request firmware at the driver level where
the driver somehow knows what FPGA to request.

> and there will be this option. But don't try to restrict others
> if they want to do it just in the kernel in early phase.

Doing the load in kernel early phase doesn't involve the user space
sysfs interface.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-23 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-18 15:56 [RFC PATCH 0/1] FPGA subsystem core Michal Simek
2013-09-18 15:56 ` [RFC PATCH] fpga: Introduce new fpga subsystem Michal Simek
2013-09-18 16:11   ` Joe Perches
2013-09-19 10:01     ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 16:26       ` Alan Tull
2013-09-18 19:02   ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-09-19 11:53     ` Michal Simek
2013-09-18 19:15   ` Jason Cooper
2013-09-18 20:32     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-09-18 21:17       ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 10:08         ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 11:02           ` Michal Simek
2013-09-20 20:55             ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 15:55               ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 15:58                 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-24 16:22                   ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 22:18                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-09-25 13:55                       ` Yves Vandervennet
2013-09-25 14:51                         ` Michal Simek
2013-09-25 18:50                       ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 22:54           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-25 10:41             ` Michal Simek
2013-09-25 12:00             ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-25 14:27               ` Philip Balister
2013-09-25 14:43                 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-25 19:21                   ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 10:55         ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 11:17           ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 11:22             ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 12:52               ` /sys rules " Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 14:06                 ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 14:10                   ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 14:18                     ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 15:14                       ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 14:20                     ` Jason Cooper
2013-09-19 14:37                       ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 22:48                         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]           ` <CADuitaA3PLaOgmqXzfMdMDaXg7G6bT-DufjcuhtWfvaoWRj__Q@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-19 15:14             ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 15:18           ` Yves Vandervennet
2013-09-19 17:28             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-09-23 13:10               ` Michal Simek
2013-09-23 17:10                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2013-09-25 10:48                   ` Michal Simek
2013-09-23 13:02             ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 10:03       ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 10:45       ` Michal Simek
2013-09-27 13:31       ` Michal Simek
2013-09-30 17:12         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-01 15:59           ` Michal Simek
2013-09-18 23:45   ` Ryan Mallon
2013-09-19 11:37     ` Michal Simek

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