From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>
Cc: Yves Vandervennet <rocket.yvanderv@gmail.com>,
Alan Tull <atull@altera.com>, Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@altera.com>,
Philip Balister <philip@balister.org>,
Alessandro Rubini <rubini@gnudd.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <m.chehab@samsung.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Cesar Eduardo Barros <cesarb@cesarb.net>,
Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
David Brown <davidb@codeaurora.org>,
Dom Cobley <popcornmix@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] fpga: Introduce new fpga subsystem
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:10:29 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130923171029.GA29429@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52403DB3.1080902@monstr.eu>
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 03:10:11PM +0200, Michal Simek wrote:
> > 1) The driver doesn't know what firmware to request. It just knows
> > how to send it to a FPGA.
>
> But dts property in the manager driver which uses this as end driver
> can know that.
I think the device tree maintainers would push back on this since it
is not "describing the hardware"
> > 2) Telling the kernel a filename via sysfs and then having it go
> > around the long way via request_firwmare to get the data is silly.
> > Just give the kernel the actual data instead of a file name
>
> Firmware interface is valid way how to pass bitstream to the kernel.
> If you don't like just don't use it. For example you can add
> firmware blob directly to the kernel and load this at bootup phase
> without user-space access.
I'm not against using request firmware for what it is ment for: having
the kernel autonomously load firmware.
I am against the sysfs API in the core code where userspace writes a
file name that is then used to request_firwmare. That is a goofy API
for the reasons I outlined.
It is appropriate to use request firmware at the driver level where
the driver somehow knows what FPGA to request.
> and there will be this option. But don't try to restrict others
> if they want to do it just in the kernel in early phase.
Doing the load in kernel early phase doesn't involve the user space
sysfs interface.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-23 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-18 15:56 [RFC PATCH 0/1] FPGA subsystem core Michal Simek
2013-09-18 15:56 ` [RFC PATCH] fpga: Introduce new fpga subsystem Michal Simek
2013-09-18 16:11 ` Joe Perches
2013-09-19 10:01 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 16:26 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-18 19:02 ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-09-19 11:53 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-18 19:15 ` Jason Cooper
2013-09-18 20:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-09-18 21:17 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 10:08 ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 11:02 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-20 20:55 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 15:55 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 15:58 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-24 16:22 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 22:18 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-09-25 13:55 ` Yves Vandervennet
2013-09-25 14:51 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-25 18:50 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 22:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-25 10:41 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-25 12:00 ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-25 14:27 ` Philip Balister
2013-09-25 14:43 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-25 19:21 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 10:55 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 11:17 ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 11:22 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 12:52 ` /sys rules " Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 14:06 ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 14:10 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 14:18 ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 15:14 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 14:20 ` Jason Cooper
2013-09-19 14:37 ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 22:48 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <CADuitaA3PLaOgmqXzfMdMDaXg7G6bT-DufjcuhtWfvaoWRj__Q@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-19 15:14 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 15:18 ` Yves Vandervennet
2013-09-19 17:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-09-23 13:10 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-23 17:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2013-09-25 10:48 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-23 13:02 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 10:03 ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 10:45 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-27 13:31 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-30 17:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-01 15:59 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-18 23:45 ` Ryan Mallon
2013-09-19 11:37 ` Michal Simek
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