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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.jf.intel.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/21] perf tools: Add toggling events support
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:03:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130926070307.GE19090@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130925191216.GE2018@tassilo.jf.intel.com>


* Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:50:26PM +0200, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > hi,
> > sending *RFC* for toggling events support.
> > 
> > Adding perf interface that allows to create toggle events, which can
> > enable or disable another event. Whenever the toggle event is triggered
> > (has overflow), it toggles another event state and either starts or
> > stops it.
> > 
> > The goal is to be able to create toggling tracepoint events to enable and
> > disable HW counters, but the interface is generic enough to be used for
> > any kind of event. 
> 
> Haven't read the patches, but frequent full event switch in/out seems 
> very expensive.  If someone puts that switch on a common function it 
> would likely disturb things quite a bit.
>
> It would be better to keep counting and just do RDPMC on the switch 
> points, and then subtract for counting. For sampling could need a MSR 
> write to enable/disable. Still somewhat expensive, but nowhere near as 
> bad as a full switch.

This is essentially an optimized event switch and should probably be done 
on a higher level so that other instances of event/context switching 
benefit as well.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-26  7:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-25 12:50 [RFC 00/21] perf tools: Add toggling events support Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 01/21] perf tools: Introduce perf_evlist__wait_workload function Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 02/21] perf tools: Separate sys_perf_event_open call into evsel_open Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 03/21] perf x86: Update event count properly for read syscall Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 04/21] perf: Move event state initialization before/behind the pmu add/del calls Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 05/21] perf: Add event toggle sys_perf_event_open interface Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 22:36   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2013-09-26 12:27     ` Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 06/21] perf: Add event toggle ioctl interface Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 19:46   ` Vince Weaver
2013-09-26 12:30     ` Jiri Olsa
2013-09-26 13:03       ` Vince Weaver
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 07/21] perf: Toggle whole group in toggle event overflow Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 08/21] perf: Add new 'paused' attribute Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 22:41   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2013-09-26 12:24     ` Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 09/21] perf: Account toggle masters for toggled event Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 10/21] perf: Be more specific on pmu related event init naming Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 11/21] perf: Split allocation and initialization code Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 12/21] perf: Support event inheritance for toggle feature Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 13/21] perf tests: Adding event simple toggling test Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 14/21] perf tests: Adding event group " Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 15/21] perf tests: Adding event inherit " Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 16/21] perf tools: Allow numeric event to change name via name term Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 17/21] perf tools: Add event_config_optional parsing rule Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 18/21] perf tools: Rename term related parsing function/variable properly Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 19/21] perf tools: Carry term string value for symbols events Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 20/21] perf tools: Add support to parse event on/off toggle terms Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 12:50 ` [PATCH 21/21] perf tools: Add record/stat support for toggling events Jiri Olsa
2013-09-25 19:12 ` [RFC 00/21] perf tools: Add toggling events support Andi Kleen
2013-09-26  7:03   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-09-26 15:45     ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-26 12:11   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-09-26 11:31 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-09-26 12:20   ` Jiri Olsa

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