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From: Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" 
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/9] procfs: add proc_allow_access() to check if file's opener may access task
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:27:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131004192712.GA4334@dztty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVMBh0nNgpOHOMrsOjHez7NnCNbY5nHxeQ3RToP4nKO+A@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 12:16:26PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 07:34:08PM +0100, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 04:40:01PM +0100, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org> wrote:
> >> >> > On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 02:09:55PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Sorry, I described the obviously broken scenario incorrectly.  Your
> >> patch breaks (in the absence of things like selinux) if a exec
> >> something setuid root.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I did the check in the proc_same_open_cred() function:
> >> >  return (uid_eq(fcred->uid, cred->uid) &&
> >> >          gid_eq(fcred->gid, cred->gid) &&
> >> >          cap_issubset(cred->cap_permitted, fcred->cap_permitted));
> >>
> >> Which has nothing to do with anything.  If that check fails, you're
> >> just going on to a different, WRONG check/.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Check if this is the same uid/gid and the capabilities superset!
> >> >
> >> > But in the proc_allow_access() the capabilities superset is missing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > So to fix it:
> >> > 1) if proc_same_open_cred() detects that cred have changed between
> >> > ->open() and ->read() then abort, return zero, the ->read(),write()...
> >>
> >> IMO yuck.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2) Improve the proc_allow_access() check by:
> >> >    if this is the same user namespace then check uid/gid of f_cred on
> >> >    target cred task, and the capabilities superset:
> >> >    cap_issubset(tcred->cap_permitted, fcred->cap_permitted));
> >> >
> >> >    If it fails let security_capable() or file_ns_capable() do its magic.
> >> >
> >>
> >> NAK.  You need to actually call the LSM.  What if the reason to fail
> >> the request isn't that the writer gained capabilities -- what if the
> >> writer's selinux label changed?
> > Sorry I can't follow you here! Can you be more explicit please?
> >
> > For me we are already doing this during ptrace_may_access() on each
> > syscall, which will call LSM to inspect the privileges on each ->open(),
> > ->write()... So LSM hooks are already called. If you want to have more
> > LSM hooks, then perhaps that's another problem?
> 
> Can you show me where, in your code, LSMs are asked whether the
> process calling read() is permitted to ptrace the process that the
> proc file points at?
Yes.
[PATCH v2 9/9] procfs: improve permission checks on /proc/*/syscall

->read()
  ->syscall_read()
    ->lock_trace()
      ->ptrace_may_access()
        ->__ptrace_may_access()
	  ->security_ptrace_access_check()
	    ->yama_ptrace_access_check()
	    ->security_ops->ptrace_access_check()


And also for patch:
[PATCH v2 8/9] procfs: improve permission checks on /proc/*/stack

And during ->open() and ->read()


So sorry Andy, I don't follow what you are describing.

> --Andy

-- 
Djalal Harouni
http://opendz.org

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-04 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-01 20:26 [PATCH v2 0/9] procfs: protect /proc/<pid>/* files with file->f_cred Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] procfs: add proc_same_open_cred() to check if the cred have changed Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] procfs: add proc_allow_access() to check if file's opener may access task Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02  1:36   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 14:55     ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:44       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 14:36         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:12           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 19:29             ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 19:37               ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 20:13                 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 21:09                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04  8:59                     ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 15:40                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 18:23                         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 18:34                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:11                             ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 19:16                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:27                                 ` Djalal Harouni [this message]
2013-10-04 19:32                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 19:41                                     ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04 22:17                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 22:55                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-04 22:59                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-04 23:08                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-05  0:35                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-09 10:35                                               ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-05 13:23                                         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-07 21:41                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-09 10:54                                             ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-09 11:15                                               ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-09 17:27                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-13 10:18                                                 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] procfs: Document the proposed solution to protect procfs entries Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] procfs: make /proc/*/{stack,syscall} 0400 Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] procfs: make /proc entries that use seq files able to access file->f_cred Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] procfs: add permission checks on the file's opener of /proc/*/stat Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02  1:39   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 15:14     ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:46       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 19:00         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] procfs: add permission checks on the file's opener of /proc/*/personality Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] procfs: improve permission checks on /proc/*/stack Djalal Harouni
2013-10-01 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] procfs: improve permission checks on /proc/*/syscall Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02  1:40 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] procfs: protect /proc/<pid>/* files with file->f_cred Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 14:37   ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 16:51     ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 17:48       ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 18:00         ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-02 18:07           ` Kees Cook
2013-10-03 23:14             ` Julien Tinnes
2013-10-02 18:26           ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:41             ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:22         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:35           ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 18:48             ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 19:43               ` Kees Cook
2013-10-03  6:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-03 12:29                 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:15                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 15:40                     ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 15:50                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-03 18:37                         ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-04  9:05                 ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-02 18:12       ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03  6:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-03 12:56           ` Djalal Harouni
2013-10-03 13:39             ` Ingo Molnar

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