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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/50] tools/perf: Speed up the build system
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:48:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131008124822.GA3438@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <525362C1.4010402@gmail.com>


* David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com> wrote:

> > This is just the print-out though - the actual feature logic should 
> > still follow the NO_DWARF=1 setting (modulo bugs).
> >
> > So I'm wondering, should we solve this by adding extra logic linking 
> > the feature flags with their legacy names. It would get unwieldy 
> > rather quickly I think.
> 
> yes.
> 
> > Another solution would be to introduce a new method to disable 
> > features, via something like:
> >
> >	make FEATURE_dwarf=0
> >
> > Where the pattern would follow the auto-detected naming. This would 
> > simplify the printout logic and would simplify the feature support / 
> > flags decision tree as well.
> >
> > Furthermore, it would unify the various flags we have today, which is 
> > rather mixed: for example there's NO_DWARF which is a name that shows 
> > negated logic, but there's also HAVE_CPLUS_DEMANGLE_SUPPORT is is a 
> > name with positive logic. We'd have one uniform naming scheme 
> > permeating the whole build system.
> 
> The Kconfig series converts all of the NO_XXXXX to CONFIG_XXXXX. I'd 
> like to see that because it mirrors kernel configs and is a stepping 
> stone to kconf integration.

Yeah.

It also negates NO_XXXXX use back to straight logic, right?

I.e. CONFIG_LIBSLANG=y should mean that libslang is enabled, 
CONFIG_LIBSLANG undefined means that it's disabled.

These could then also be passed straight to the build system:

  make CONFIG_LIBSLANG=0

should have the same effect as NO_LIBSLANG. The old NO_XXXXX flags would 
go away.

Maybe we could also force features on via:

  make CONFIG_LIBSLANG=1

this could be used to work around auto-detection failures, and could be 
used to check whether a feature check is precise.

This:

  make CONFIG_ALL=1

could perhaps be a handy shortcut to force-enable all features [that make 
sense on an architecture] - for package builds.

> If the NO_XXXX takes precedence over the autoprobe detection then the 
> user gets what is asked, so I guess we can leave it as is for now.

Okay. I'll try to leave it alone as much as possible, to not upset your 
kconfig series even more ...

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-08 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-07 11:55 [RFC PATCH 00/50] tools/perf: Speed up the build system Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:55 ` [PATCH 01/50] tools/perf: Standardize feature support define names to: HAVE_{FEATURE}_SUPPORT Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:55 ` [PATCH 02/50] tools/perf/build: Add feature check core code Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:55 ` [PATCH 03/50] tools/perf/build: Add 'autodep' functionality, generate feature test dependencies automatically Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:55 ` [PATCH 04/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'libnuma' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:55 ` [PATCH 05/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'stackprotector-all' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:55 ` [PATCH 06/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'stackprotector' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 07/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'volatile-register-var' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 08/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'fortify-source' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 09/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'bionic' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 10/50] tools/perf/build: Clean up the libelf logic in config/Makefile Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 11/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'libelf' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 12/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'glibc' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 13/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'dwarf' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 14/50] tools/perf/build: Clean up the mmap logic in config/Makefile Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 15/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'libelf-mmap' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 16/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'libelf-getphdrnum' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 17/50] tools/perf/build: Clean up the libunwind logic in config/Makefile Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 18/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'libunwind' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 19/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'libaudit' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 21:00   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-08  8:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 20/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'libslang' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 14:52   ` David Ahern
2013-10-08  8:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 21/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'gtk2' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 22/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'gtk2-infobar' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 23/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'libperl' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 24/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'libpython' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 25/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'libpython-version' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 26/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'libbfd' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 15:11   ` David Ahern
2013-10-07 21:18     ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-08  8:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 27/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'on-exit' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 28/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature check: 'backtrace' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 29/50] tools/perf: Clean up util/include/linux/compiler.h Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 30/50] tools/perf: Turn strlcpy() into a __weak function Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 31/50] tools/perf/build: Speed up auto-detection of features by adding a 'test-all' target Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 21:27   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-08  8:23     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 21:59   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 32/50] tools/perf/build: Speed up git-version test on re-make Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 33/50] tools/perf/build: Speed up the final link Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 34/50] tools/perf: Fix double/triple-build of the feature detection logic during 'make install' et al Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 35/50] tools/perf/build: Invoke feature-checks 'clean' target from the main Makefile Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 36/50] tools/perf/build: Speed up auto-detection Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 21:57   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-08  8:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 37/50] tools/perf/build: Improve printout-of auto-detected features Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 22:12   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-08  8:46     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-08 15:51       ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-09  6:42         ` [PATCH 53/52] tools/perf/build: Clean up feature_print_code() Ingo Molnar
2013-10-09  8:38           ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-15  5:20         ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 38/50] tools/perf/build: Automatically build in parallel, based on number of CPUs in the system Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 39/50] tools/perf/build: Flip Makefile.parallel and Makefile.perf Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 40/50] tools/perf/build: Standardize the various messages output by parallel make Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 41/50] tools/perf/build: Split out feature checks: 'liberty', 'liberty-z', 'cplus-demangle' Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 42/50] tools/perf/build: Remove unused config/feature-tests.mak Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 43/50] tools/perf/build: Clean up various testcases Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 44/50] tools/perf/build: Collapse the test-all.c testcase Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 22:25   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-08  8:47     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 45/50] tools/perf/build: Pass through all targets to Makefile.perf Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 46/50] tools/perf/build: Make sure autodep feature binaries honor the O= setting Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 47/50] tools/perf/build: Exclude MAKEFLAGS from nested invocation Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 48/50] tools/perf/build: Fix non-canonical directory names in O= Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 49/50] tools/perf/build: Fix O=/some/dir perf.o type of targets Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 22:33   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-08  8:49     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 11:56 ` [PATCH 50/50] tools/perf/build: Harmonize the style of the feature testcases Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 00/50] tools/perf: Speed up the build system David Ahern
2013-10-07 14:11   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 15:35     ` David Ahern
2013-10-07 15:51       ` [PATCH] tools/perf/build: Pass through LDFLAGS to feature tests Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 16:07         ` David Ahern
2013-10-15  5:20         ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 16:41       ` [RFC PATCH 00/50] tools/perf: Speed up the build system Ingo Molnar
2013-10-08  1:41         ` David Ahern
2013-10-08 12:48           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-10-07 20:15 ` Andi Kleen
2013-10-08  9:02   ` Ingo Molnar

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