From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"ak@linux.intel.com" <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] perf: mmap2 not covering VM_CLONE regions
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:41:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131008194129.GC7315@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52541556.5060907@gmail.com>
* David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stephane:
>
> On 9/30/13 9:44 AM, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> >I was alerted by people trying to use the PERF_RECORD_MMAP2
> >record to disambiguate virtual address mappings that there is a case
> >where the record does not contain enough information.
> >
> >As you know, the MMAP2 record adds the major, minor, ino number,
> >inode generation numbers to a mapping. But it does that only for
> >file or pseudo -file backed mappings. That covers file mmaps and also
> >SYSV shared memory segments.
> >
> >However there is a another kind of situation that arises in some
> >multi-process benchmarks where a region of memory is cloned
> >using VM_CLONE. As such, the virtual addresses match between
> >the processes but the major, minor, inode, inode generation fields
> >are all zeroes because there is no inode associated with the mapping.
> >Yet, it is important for the tool to know the mappings between the
> >processes are pointing to the same physical data.
> >
> >We need to cover this case and I am seeking for advice on how to
> >best address this need given that we discarded using the plain physical
> >address for disambiguation.
>
>
> If the current MMAP2 is not a complete solution for what you (Google)
> need, should support be reverted before 3.12 is released? No sense in
> making this part of the forever API if more work is needed on it.
Instead of a full revert we could just turn off the ABI portion minimally
and not recognize it for now. Assuming a more complete solution is in the
works for v3.13.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-08 19:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-30 15:44 [RFC] perf: mmap2 not covering VM_CLONE regions Stephane Eranian
2013-09-30 16:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-30 16:48 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-09-30 16:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-01 11:22 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-02 11:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-02 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-02 12:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-02 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-02 12:59 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-02 13:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-02 13:13 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-02 13:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-02 17:14 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 17:20 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-02 17:29 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 17:49 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-02 18:10 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 19:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-02 19:38 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02 20:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-03 8:55 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-03 9:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-03 9:13 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-03 15:34 ` Kees Cook
2013-10-07 21:04 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-08 6:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-08 7:15 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-08 9:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-08 9:42 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-08 9:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-03 18:32 ` Andi Kleen
2013-10-07 11:16 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-07 11:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-02 15:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-08 14:23 ` David Ahern
2013-10-08 19:41 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-10-08 19:54 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-10-08 19:57 ` David Ahern
2013-10-09 9:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-09 9:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-09 10:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
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