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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: acme@ghostprotocols.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] perf record: mmap output file
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:59:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131009055957.GA7664@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1381289214-24885-4-git-send-email-dsahern@gmail.com>


* David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com> wrote:

> When recording raw_syscalls for the entire system, e.g.,
>     perf record -e raw_syscalls:*,sched:sched_switch -a -- sleep 1
> 
> you end up with a negative feedback loop as perf itself calls
> write() fairly often. This patch handles the problem by mmap'ing the
> file in chunks of 64M at a time and copies events from the event buffers
> to the file avoiding write system calls.
> 
> Before (with write syscall):
> 
> perf record -o /tmp/perf.data -e raw_syscalls:*,sched:sched_switch -a -- sleep 1
> [ perf record: Woken up 0 times to write data ]
> [ perf record: Captured and wrote 81.843 MB /tmp/perf.data (~3575786 samples) ]
> 
> After (using mmap):
> 
> perf record -o /tmp/perf.data -e raw_syscalls:*,sched:sched_switch -a -- sleep 1
> [ perf record: Woken up 31 times to write data ]
> [ perf record: Captured and wrote 8.203 MB /tmp/perf.data (~358388 samples) ]
> 
> In addition to perf-trace benefits using mmap lowers the overhead of
> perf-record. For example,
> 
>   perf stat -i -- perf record -g -o /tmp/perf.data openssl speed aes
> 
> showsi a drop in time, CPU cycles, and instructions all drop by more than a
> factor of 3. Jiri also ran a test that showed a big improvement.

Here are some thoughts on how 'perf record' tracing performance could be 
further improved:

1)

The use of non-temporal stores (MOVNTQ) to copy the ring-buffer into the 
file buffer makes sure the CPU cache is not trashed by the copying - which 
is the largest 'collateral damage' copying does.

glibc does not appear to expose non-temporal instructions so it's going to 
be architecture dependent - but we could build the copy_user_nocache() 
function from the kernel proper (or copy it - we could even simplify it: 
knowing that only large and page aligned buffers are going to be copied 
with it).

See how tools/perf/bench/mem-mem* does that to be able to measure the 
kernel's memcpy() and memset() function performance.

2)

Yet another method would be to avoid the copies altogether via the splice 
system-call - see:

	git grep splice kernel/trace/

To make splice low-overhead we'd have to introduce a mode to not mmap the 
data part of the perf ring-buffer and splice the data straight from the 
perf fd into a temporary pipe and over from the pipe into the target file 
(or socket).

OTOH non-temporal stores are incredibly simple and memory bandwidth is 
plenty on modern systems so I'd certainly try that route first.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-09  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-09  3:26 [PATCH 0/3] perf trace enhancements David Ahern
2013-10-09  3:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf util: Add findnew method to intlist - v2 David Ahern
2013-10-15  5:32   ` [tip:perf/core] perf util: Add findnew method to intlist tip-bot for David Ahern
2013-10-09  3:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf trace: Add summary option to dump syscall statistics David Ahern
2013-10-09 13:16   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-15  5:32   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for David Ahern
2013-10-09  3:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] perf record: mmap output file David Ahern
2013-10-09  5:59   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-10-15 14:04     ` David Ahern
2013-10-15 14:32       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-10-15 14:38         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-15 15:27           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-15 15:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-15 15:30             ` David Ahern
2013-10-15 16:06               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-15 16:16                 ` David Ahern
2013-10-16  7:11                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-15 16:37                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-09  7:14   ` Mike Galbraith

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