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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	avi.kivity@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/15] KVM: MMU: allow locklessly access shadow page table out of vcpu thread
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:08:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131010120845.GT3574@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131010014710.GA2198@amt.cnet>

On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:47:10PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > >> Gleb has a idea that uses RCU_DESTORY to protect the shadow page table
> > >> and encodes the page-level into the spte (since we need to check if the spte
> > >> is the last-spte. ).  How about this?
> > > 
> > > Pointer please? Why is DESTROY_SLAB_RCU any safer than call_rcu with
> > > regards to limitation? (maybe it is).
> > 
> > For my experience, freeing shadow page and allocing shadow page are balanced,
> > we can check it by (make -j12 on a guest with 4 vcpus and):
> > 
> > # echo > trace
> > [root@eric-desktop tracing]# cat trace > ~/log | sleep 3
> > [root@eric-desktop tracing]# cat ~/log | grep new | wc -l
> > 10816
> > [root@eric-desktop tracing]# cat ~/log | grep prepare | wc -l
> > 10656
> > [root@eric-desktop tracing]# cat set_event
> > kvmmmu:kvm_mmu_get_page
> > kvmmmu:kvm_mmu_prepare_zap_page
> > 
> > alloc VS. free = 10816 : 10656
> > 
> > So that, mostly all allocing and freeing are done in the slab's
> > cache and the slab frees shdadow pages very slowly, there is no rcu issue.
> 
> A more detailed test case would be:
> 
> - cpu0-vcpu0 releasing pages as fast as possible
> - cpu1 executing get_dirty_log
> 
> Think of a very large guest.
> 
The number of shadow pages allocated from slab will be bounded by
n_max_mmu_pages, and, in addition, page released to slab is immediately
available for allocation, no need to wait for grace period. RCU comes
into play only when slab is shrunk, which should be almost never. If
SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU slab does not rate limit how it frees its pages this
is for slab to fix, not for its users.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-10 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-05 10:29 [PATCH v2 00/15] KVM: MMU: locklessly wirte-protect Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] KVM: MMU: fix the count of spte number Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-08 12:19   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-08 13:55     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-08 14:01       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-08 14:24         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-08 14:26           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] KVM: MMU: properly check last spte in fast_page_fault() Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-30 21:23   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-03  6:16     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] KVM: MMU: lazily drop large spte Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-30 22:39   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-03  6:29     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] KVM: MMU: flush tlb if the spte can be locklessly modified Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] KVM: MMU: flush tlb out of mmu lock when write-protect the sptes Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-30 23:05   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-03  6:46     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] KVM: MMU: update spte and add it into rmap before dirty log Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] KVM: MMU: redesign the algorithm of pte_list Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] KVM: MMU: introduce nulls desc Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] KVM: MMU: introduce pte-list lockless walker Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-08 12:03   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-16 12:42   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-16 13:52     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-16 15:04       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] KVM: MMU: initialize the pointers in pte_list_desc properly Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] KVM: MMU: reintroduce kvm_mmu_isolate_page() Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] KVM: MMU: allow locklessly access shadow page table out of vcpu thread Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-08  1:23   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-08  4:02     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-09  1:56       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-09 10:45         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-10  1:47           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-10 12:08             ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-10-10 16:42               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-10 19:16                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-10 21:03                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-11  5:38                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-11 20:30                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-12  5:53                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-14 19:29                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-15  3:57                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-15 22:21                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-16  0:41                                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-16  9:12                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-16 20:43                                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] KVM: MMU: locklessly write-protect the page Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] KVM: MMU: clean up spte_write_protect Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-05 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 15/15] KVM: MMU: use rcu functions to access the pointer Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-15 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] KVM: MMU: locklessly wirte-protect Gleb Natapov

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