From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755992Ab3J1KvH (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Oct 2013 06:51:07 -0400 Received: from mail-ee0-f48.google.com ([74.125.83.48]:63678 "EHLO mail-ee0-f48.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751635Ab3J1KvF (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Oct 2013 06:51:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:51:01 +0100 From: Ingo Molnar To: Andreas Werner Cc: Borislav Petkov , tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com, x86@kernel.org, dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] X86: MM: Add PAT Type write-through in combination with mtrr Message-ID: <20131028105101.GC6274@gmail.com> References: <20131027133401.GB24817@pd.tnic> <20131027165159.GD1617@thinkpad.fritz.box> <20131027173131.GC21868@pd.tnic> <20131027175608.GA1340@thinkpad.fritz.box> <20131027190148.GD21868@pd.tnic> <20131028062946.GA1391@thinkpad.fritz.box> <20131028101749.GA4389@gmail.com> <20131028102938.GD4314@pd.tnic> <20131028103132.GA6274@gmail.com> <20131028104505.GB2278@thinkpad.fritz.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20131028104505.GB2278@thinkpad.fritz.box> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Andreas Werner wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:31:32AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > * Borislav Petkov wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:17:49AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > > > > And regular write-back cacheable isn't sufficient because the > > > > CPU could do things like prefetch your range automatically? > > > > > > Yeah, he's doing a CLFLUSH anyway which basically makes it a > > > write-through... > > > > The CLFLUSH is done afterwards (making it a use-once thing), so WB > > might still be faster and would avoid the PAT headache ... > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ingo > What i do right now is: > 1. clflush the data range to read from my mmio device > 2. read the data. > On PCIe Tracer i see the pcie bursts. > > If i mark the region WB and call clflush my system will crash without > any message, it just stop working. Yeah, I was wondering whether it's valid at all to mark IO memory as cacheable - with the lack of MESI transactions and all that ... So it's apparently not valid and we've got to live with WT as the 'best' caching/bursting method for reads. Thanks, Ingo