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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysfs: move assignment to be under lock in sysfs_remove_dir()
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:38:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131030223832.GA29216@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8738ni308z.fsf@xmission.com>

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 02:41:16PM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> One of the particularly problematic things that can happen with sysfs is
> that we can get a hotplug event in userspace and then examine sysfs and
> not find the attributes of the device because the kernel has not added
> them yet.
> 
> Which is a particularly good reason to have a campaign against
> independent usage of device_create_file and device_remove_file in the
> device users.

I have been working on that over the past few months, there are now
default attribute groups for all things, and those are used to create
the files _before_ the hotplug event goes to userspace.  I still have
more work to do to clean this up, but my goal is to remove
device_create_file() entirely, although we still have some work to go
for the platform driver case, which will take some time.

But we will get there eventually, it's a problem that has to be fixed as
more and more people hit this with multi-core, fast systems these days.

> At which point really the right thing to do when we delete a directory
> is to WARN and be very grumpy if there are any attributes in the
> directory we were removing.

We tried this once, and it was a mess.  But that was a long time ago,
maybe it's better now, I'll look and see...

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-30 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-29 22:09 [PATCH] sysfs: move assignment to be under lock in sysfs_remove_dir() Greg KH
2013-10-30  0:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-30  1:25   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-30  5:29     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-30 13:28       ` Tejun Heo
2013-10-30 14:28         ` [PATCH driver-core-next] sysfs: rename sysfs_assoc_lock and explain what it's about Tejun Heo
2013-10-30 22:29           ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-31 17:11             ` Tejun Heo
2013-10-30 21:41         ` [PATCH] sysfs: move assignment to be under lock in sysfs_remove_dir() Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-30 22:00           ` Tejun Heo
2013-10-30 22:38           ` Greg KH [this message]
2013-10-30 13:14 ` Tejun Heo
2013-10-30 21:42 ` Eric W. Biederman

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