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From: andreas.thalhammer@linux.com
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [Topic closed] A Desktop Linux idea: modulized open hardware database for the linux kernel config
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 23:03:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201311032303.16938.andreas.thalhammer@linux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131103200227.GC7376@thunk.org>

Theodore Ts'o wrote on Sunday, 03rd November 2013:
> It's an idea that people have tossed around before, but utltimately,
> it's far more work than it's worth, and it's a maintenance nightmare.
> For most non-technical users, using a distro kernel is quite good
> enough.

Yes, I get it. Thanks for the honesty.

> > I’m sorry, but I cannot possibly do this all by myself. I was able
> > to help in some Wikis and in Smolt, but I cannot setup such a
> > system. Apparently I was only able to come up with the idea...
>
> If you told me that you wanted to try it, I would tell you that you
> were going to be getting into a huge amount of work, and it's not
> obvious to me that it's worth it --- but if you are going to volunteer
> your own time, then it's ultimately up to you.  But having you trying
> to volunteer *other* people's time for what might be a sisyphean does
> take a fair amount of chutzpah.

I don’t want other people to volunteer, I was expressing an idea, but – after 
reading your answer – I do understand that the gain is not worth the effort. At 
least now I know what you (the people making Linux) think about it.

I was trying to off-load some workload from you (developers) to power-users. I 
consider myself to be good enough to compile a kernel by myself, and to 
install Gentoo for that matter, and I’m also willing to volunteer some of my 
spare time to help other people who run Linux. I wrote some Wiki entries on 
how to install Linux on a specific machine and how to get things to run. I 
found that most of the times a new kernel was required due to some devices 
requireing a staging driver or a deactivated feature of a driver.

However, my possibilities are limited. As I wrote before, I tried some tools 
(written by others!) that unfortunately didn’t work out, like Smolt.

So I’ll let go of that idea. I’m certainly glad to have proposed it, but I get 
it that it isn’t worth it.

I don’t think it has anything to do with chutzpah though, since the posting 
was motivated by me being eager to help where I can, not where I cannot.
(Although I do understand it may look different.)

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-03 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-03 14:53 A Desktop Linux idea: modulized open hardware database for the linux kernel config andreas.thalhammer
2013-11-03 16:18 ` Aldo Iljazi
2013-11-03 16:43   ` andreas.thalhammer
2013-11-03 17:42     ` el_es
2013-11-03 18:53     ` andreas.thalhammer
2013-11-03 18:57     ` Re for el_es: " andreas.thalhammer
2013-11-03 20:02       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-03 22:03         ` andreas.thalhammer [this message]
2013-11-12 22:13   ` Pavel Machek

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