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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@lge.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Rodrigo Campos <rodrigo@sdfg.com.ar>,
	Arun Sharma <asharma@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCHSET 00/14] perf report: Add support to accumulate hist periods (v2)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:34:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131104133415.GD9299@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131031080932.GA8479@gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 09:09:32AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> 
> * Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > When the -g cumulative option is given, it'll be shown like this:
> > 
> >   $ perf report -g cumulative --stdio
> > 
> >   # Overhead  Overhead (Acc)  Command      Shared Object                   Symbol
> >   # ........  ..............  .......  .................  .......................
> >   #
> >        0.00%          88.29%      abc  libc-2.17.so       [.] __libc_start_main  
> >        0.00%          88.29%      abc  abc                [.] main               
> >        0.00%          88.29%      abc  abc                [.] c                  
> >        0.00%          88.29%      abc  abc                [.] b                  
> >       88.29%          88.29%      abc  abc                [.] a                  
> >        0.00%          11.61%      abc  ld-2.17.so         [k] _dl_sysdep_start   
> >        0.00%           9.43%      abc  ld-2.17.so         [.] dl_main            
> >        9.43%           9.43%      abc  ld-2.17.so         [.] _dl_relocate_object
> >        2.27%           2.27%      abc  [kernel.kallsyms]  [k] page_fault         
> >        0.00%           2.18%      abc  ld-2.17.so         [k] _dl_start_user     
> >        0.00%           0.10%      abc  ld-2.17.so         [.] _start             
> > 
> > As you can see __libc_start_main -> main -> c -> b -> a callchain 
> > show up in the output.
> 
> This looks really useful!
> 
> A couple of details:
> 
> 1)
> 
> This is pretty close to SysProf output, right? So why not use the 
> well-known SysProf naming and call the first column 'self' and the 
> second column 'total'? I think those names are pretty intuitive and 
> it would help people who come from SysProf over to perf.
> 
> 2)
> 
> Is it possible to configure the default 'report -g' style, so that 
> people who'd like to use it all the time don't have to type '-g 
> cumulative' all the time?
> 
> 3)
> 
> I'd even argue that we enable this reporting feature by default, if 
> a data file includes call-chain data: the first column will still 
> show the well-known percentage that perf report produces today, the 
> second column will be a new feature in essence.
> 
> The only open question would be, by which column should we sort: 
> 'sysprof style' sorts by 'total', 'perf style' sorts by 'self'. 
> Agreed?

Defaulting that behaviour may make sense but we can expect some visible overhead
out of it though. Adding one hist per callchain entry has probably some
measurable impact.

How about we wait to see that option mature upstream a bit first then we can
decide about making it the default once we have measured and maybe optimized
the resulting overhead?

Thanks.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-04 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-31  6:56 [RFC/PATCHSET 00/14] perf report: Add support to accumulate hist periods (v2) Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 01/14] perf tools: Consolidate __hists__add_*entry() Namhyung Kim
2013-11-01 11:56   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-06  5:43   ` [tip:perf/core] perf hists: " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 02/14] perf tools: Introduce struct add_entry_iter Namhyung Kim
2013-11-01 12:07   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-05  7:09     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-01 12:09   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-05  7:16     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 03/14] perf hists: Convert hist entry functions to use struct he_stat Namhyung Kim
2013-11-04 23:45   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-11-05  7:17     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 04/14] perf hists: Add support for accumulated stat of hist entry Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 05/14] perf hists: Check if accumulated when adding a " Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 06/14] perf hists: Accumulate hist entry stat based on the callchain Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 07/14] perf tools: Update cpumode for each cumulative entry Namhyung Kim
2013-11-01 12:55   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-05  7:41     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 08/14] perf report: Cache cumulative callchains Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31 11:13   ` Rodrigo Campos
2013-11-01  7:07     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-01 14:24       ` Rodrigo Campos
2013-11-01 15:16       ` Rodrigo Campos
2013-11-01 12:29   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-01 12:57     ` Jiri Olsa
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 09/14] perf hists: Sort hist entries by accumulated period Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 10/14] perf ui/hist: Add support to accumulated hist stat Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 11/14] perf ui/browser: " Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 12/14] perf ui/gtk: " Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 13/14] perf tools: Apply percent-limit to cumulative percentage Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  6:56 ` [PATCH 14/14] perf report: Add -g cumulative option Namhyung Kim
2013-11-01 13:17   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-05  7:44     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31  8:09 ` [RFC/PATCHSET 00/14] perf report: Add support to accumulate hist periods (v2) Ingo Molnar
2013-11-01  6:48   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-01  7:55     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-01  9:18       ` Pekka Enberg
2013-11-01  9:22       ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-01  9:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-05  7:31           ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-05  7:46             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-05  9:05               ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-05 11:58                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-06  7:56                   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-06  8:30                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-06  9:17                       ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-06 11:47                         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-06 12:14                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-11 12:13                             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 13:08                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-11 13:56                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 15:45                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-06 15:33                           ` David Ahern
2013-11-11 12:19                             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 14:44                               ` David Ahern
2013-11-12 12:08                             ` Pekka Enberg
2013-11-06 16:09                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 12:17                             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-06 12:10                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-11 12:12                         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 13:01                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-04 13:27     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-04 13:23   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-04 13:34   ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]

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