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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@lge.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Hyeoncheol Lee <cheol.lee@lge.com>,
	Hemant Kumar <hkshaw@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"zhangwei(Jovi)" <jovi.zhangwei@huawei.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET 00/13] tracing/uprobes: Add support for more fetch methods (v6)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 18:37:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131106173754.GA11299@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vc05x5zf.fsf@sejong.aot.lge.com>

On 11/06, Namhyung Kim wrote:
>
> On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 20:24:01 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 11/05, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >>
> >> As for "-= tu->offset"... Can't we avoid it? User-space needs to calculate
> >> the "@" argument anyway, why it can't also substruct this offset?
> >>
> >> Or perhaps we can change parse_probe_arg("@") to update "param" ? Yes,
> >> in this case it needs another argument, not sure...
> >
> > Or,
> >
> >> 	+	if (is_ret_probe(tu)) {
> >> 	+		saved_ip = instruction_pointer(regs);
> >> 	+		instruction_pointer_set(func);
> >> 	+	}
> >> 		store_trace_args(...);
> >> 	+	if (is_ret_probe(tu))
> >> 	+		instruction_pointer_set(saved_ip);
> >
> > we can put "-= tu->offset" here.
>
> I don't think I get the point.

I meant,

		saved_ip = instruction_pointer(regs);

		// pass the "ip" which was used to calculate
		// the @addr argument to fetch_*() methods

		temp_ip = is_ret_probe(tu) ? func : saved_ip;
		temp_ip -= tu->offset;
		instruction_pointer_set(temp_ip);

		store_trace_args(...);

		instruction_pointer_set(saved_ip);

This way we can avoid the new "void *" argument for fetch_func_t,
we do not need it to calculate the address.

But: we still need the additional "bool translate_vaddr" to solve
the problems with FETCH_MTD_deref.

We already discussed this a bit, previously I suggested the new
FETCH_MTD_memory_notranslate and

        -       dprm->fetch = t->fetch[FETCH_MTD_memory];
        +       dprm->fetch = t->fetch[FETCH_MTD_memory_notranslate];

change in parse_probe_arg().

However, now I think it would be more clean to leave FETCH_MTD_memory
alone and add FETCH_MTD_memory_dotranslate instead.

So trace_uprobes.c should define

	void FETCH_FUNC_NAME(memory, type)(addr, ...)
	{
		copy_from_user((void __user *)addr);
	}

	void FETCH_FUNC_NAME(memory_dotranslate, type)(addr, ...)
	{
		void __user *uaddr = get_user_vaddr(regs, addr);
		copy_from_user(uaddr);
	}

Then,

> > Or. Perhaps we can leave "case '@'" in parse_probe_arg() and
> > FETCH_MTD_memory alone. You seem to agree that "absolute address"
> > can be useful anyway.
>
> Yes, but it's only meaningful to process-wide tracing sessions IMHO.

Yes, yes, sure.

I meant, we need both. Say, "perf probe "func global=@addr" means
FETCH_MTD_memory, and "perf probe "func global=*addr" means
FETCH_MTD_memory_dotranslate.

Just in case, of course I do not care about the syntax, for example we
can use "@~addr" for translate (or not translate) or whatever.

My only point: I think we need both to

	1. avoid the new argument in fetch_func_t

	2. allow the dump the data from the absolute address

And just to simplify the discussion, lets assume we use "*addr" for
FETCH_MTD_memory_dotranslate and thus parse_probe_arg() gets the new

	case '*':
		if (is_kprobe)
			return -EINVAL;

		kstrtoul(arg + 1, 0, &param);
		f->fn = t->fetch[FETCH_MTD_memory_dotranslate];
		f->data = (void *)param;
		break;
		
branch.

> > Instead, perhaps we can add FETCH_MTD_memory_do_fancy_addr_translation,
> > and, say, the new "case '*'" in parse_probe_arg() should add all the
> > neccessary info as f->data (like, say, FETCH_MTD_symbol).
>
> Could you elaborate this more?

Yes, I was confusing sorry.

As for FETCH_MTD_memory_do_fancy_addr_translation, please see above.

As for "neccessary info as f->data". Suppose that we still have a reason
for the additional argument in FETCH_MTD_memory_dotranslate method. Even
in this case I don't think we should change the signature of fetch_func_t.

What I think we can do is something like

	1. Changed parse_probe_arg() to accept "struct trace_uprobe *tu"
	   instead of is_kprobe. Naturally, !tu can be used instead.

	2. Introduce

		struct dotranslate_fetch_param {
			struct trace_uprobe	*tu;
			fetch_func_t		fetch;
			fetch_func_t		fetch_size;
		};

	3. Change the "case '*'" above to do

		case '*':
			if (!tu)
				return -EINVAL;

			struct dotranslate_fetch_param *xxx = kmalloc(..);

			xxx->fetch = t->fetch[FETCH_MTD_memory];

			// ... kstrtoul, fetch_size, etc, ...

			f->fn = t->fetch[FETCH_MTD_memory_dotranslate];
			f->data = (void *)xxx;

	4. Update traceprobe_free_probe_arg/etc.

	5. Now,
	
		void FETCH_FUNC_NAME(memory_dotranslate, type)(addr, ...)
		{
			struct dotranslate_fetch_param *xxx = data;
			void __user *uaddr = get_user_vaddr(regs, addr, tu);

			xxx->fetch(regs, addr, dest);
		}

Yes, yes, I am sure I missed something and this is not that simple,
I am new to this "fetch" code.

And even if I am right, let me repeat that I am not going to argue.
Well, at least too much ;) This looks better in my opinion, but this
is always subjective, so please free to ignore.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-06 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-29  6:53 [PATCHSET 00/13] tracing/uprobes: Add support for more fetch methods (v6) Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 01/13] tracing/uprobes: Fix documentation of uprobe registration syntax Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 02/13] tracing/probes: Fix basic print type functions Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 03/13] tracing/kprobes: Move fetch functions to trace_kprobe.c Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 04/13] tracing/kprobes: Add fetch{,_size} member into deref fetch method Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 05/13] tracing/kprobes: Staticize stack and memory fetch functions Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 06/13] tracing/kprobes: Factor out struct trace_probe Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 07/13] tracing/uprobes: Convert to " Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 08/13] tracing/kprobes: Move common functions to trace_probe.h Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 09/13] tracing/kprobes: Integrate duplicate set_print_fmt() Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 10/13] tracing/uprobes: Fetch args before reserving a ring buffer Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31 18:16   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-01  9:00     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-04  8:06     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-04 14:35       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-05  1:12         ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-01 15:09   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-01 15:22     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-03 20:20       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-04  8:11         ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-04 14:38           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-05  1:17             ` Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 11/13] tracing/kprobes: Add priv argument to fetch functions Namhyung Kim
2013-11-04 16:09   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-05  2:10     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 12/13] tracing/uprobes: Add more " Namhyung Kim
2013-10-31 18:22   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-04  8:50     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-04 16:44       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-04 17:17         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-05  2:19           ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-05  2:17         ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-01 17:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-10-29  6:53 ` [PATCH 13/13] tracing/uprobes: Add support for full argument access methods Namhyung Kim
2013-10-30 10:36 ` [PATCHSET 00/13] tracing/uprobes: Add support for more fetch methods (v6) Masami Hiramatsu
2013-11-02 15:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-04  8:46   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-04  8:59     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-04 15:51       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-04 16:22         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-04 18:47           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-04 18:57             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-05  2:51               ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-05 16:41                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-06  8:37                   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-05  2:49             ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-05  6:58             ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-05 17:45               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-05 19:24                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-06  8:57                   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-06 17:37                     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2013-11-06 18:24                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-07  9:00                         ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-08 17:00                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-12  7:49                             ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-07  8:48                       ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-09  3:18                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-11-09 15:23                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-12  8:00                             ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-12 18:44                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-25  6:59                               ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-25 14:12                                 ` [PATCH] uprobes: Allocate ->utask before handler_chain() for tracing handlers Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-06  8:48                 ` [PATCHSET 00/13] tracing/uprobes: Add support for more fetch methods (v6) Namhyung Kim
2013-11-06 16:28                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-07  7:33                     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-08 16:52                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-05  2:15           ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-05 16:33             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-06  8:34               ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-05  1:59         ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-04 15:01     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-05  1:53       ` Namhyung Kim
2013-11-05 16:28         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-06  8:31           ` Namhyung Kim

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