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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] printk: Defer printing to irq work when we printed too much
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 18:37:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131107183717.0fc9eb6e@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131107232148.GE28130@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 00:21:51 +0100
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
 
> Ok I see now.
> 
> But then this irq_work based solution won't work if, say, you run in full dynticks
> mode. Also the hook on the timer interrupt is something that I wish we get rid
> of on archs that can trigger self-IPIs.

Do we really want that? What about users that use LAZY? That is, the
work isn't that important to trigger right now (added interrupt
expense).

> 
> Notwithstanding it's going to have scalibility issues as irq work then converges
> to a single list for unbound works.

Well, it doesn't seem to be something that would be called often. All
CPUs checking a variable that is seldom changed should not have any
scalability issues. Unless of course it happens to share a cache line
with a variable that does change often.

> 
> Offloading to a workqueue would be perhaps better, and writing to the serial
> console could then be done with interrupts enabled, preemptible context, etc...

Oh God no ;-)  Adding workqueue logic into printk just spells a
nightmare of much more complexity for a critical kernel infrastructure.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-07 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-07 21:48 [PATCH 0/4 v6] Avoid softlockups in console_unlock() Jan Kara
2013-11-07 21:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] printk: Remove separate printk_sched buffers and use printk buf instead Jan Kara
2013-11-07 21:48 ` [PATCH 2/4] irq_work: Provide a irq work that can be processed on any cpu Jan Kara
2013-11-07 22:13   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-07 22:19     ` Jan Kara
2013-11-07 22:23       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-07 22:50         ` Jan Kara
2013-11-07 22:54           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-07 23:01             ` Jan Kara
2013-11-07 23:31               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-08 10:18                 ` Jan Kara
2013-11-07 22:32       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-07 21:48 ` [PATCH 3/4] printk: Defer printing to irq work when we printed too much Jan Kara
2013-11-07 22:43   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-07 22:57     ` Jan Kara
2013-11-07 23:21       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-07 23:37         ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2013-11-07 23:44           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-07 23:46           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-08 10:21             ` Jan Kara
2013-11-22 23:27               ` Andrew Morton
2013-11-25 12:08                 ` Jan Kara
2013-11-11 21:54       ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-11 22:17         ` Jan Kara
2013-11-16 11:35           ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-07 22:59     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-07 21:48 ` [PATCH 4/4] printk: Use unbound irq work for printing and waking Jan Kara
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-08-21  8:08 [PATCH 0/4 v6] Avoid softlockups in console_unlock() Jan Kara
2013-08-21  8:08 ` [PATCH 3/4] printk: Defer printing to irq work when we printed too much Jan Kara
2013-08-21 19:06   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-14 13:28 [PATCH 0/4 v5] Avoid softlockups in console_unlock() Jan Kara
2013-08-14 13:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] printk: Defer printing to irq work when we printed too much Jan Kara
2013-08-15  1:38   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-15  7:52     ` Jan Kara
2013-08-15 13:26       ` Steven Rostedt

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