From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756489Ab3KHHdf (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Nov 2013 02:33:35 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.9]:56498 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750889Ab3KHHdd (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Nov 2013 02:33:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 23:33:24 -0800 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Dave Kleikamp Cc: Kent Overstreet , Stephen Rothwell , Jens Axboe , linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Zach Brown , Olof Johansson , Andrew Morton Subject: Re: linux-next: manual merge of the block tree with the tree Message-ID: <20131108073324.GA31662@infradead.org> References: <52740EB1.2070901@kernel.dk> <527411DD.7050008@oracle.com> <527414DE.9090704@kernel.dk> <52756583.2030808@oracle.com> <527BE7FA.90904@oracle.com> <20131107192545.GA20624@moria.home.lan> <527C2AA9.9040608@oracle.com> <20131108125307.613427c04a7527c4359e6443@canb.auug.org.au> <20131108020805.GI3842@kmo> <527C4D35.8000907@oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <527C4D35.8000907@oracle.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Btw, I have to state that I very much disagree with dropping the direct I/O kernel changes, and I also very much disagree with keeping the immutable iovecs in. For the latter I think the immutable iovecs are useful and do want to see them eventually, but they were merged at the latest possible point in the merge window and cause breakage all over the tree, so they very clearly are not ready at this point, and I fear even more breakage if they do get merged. The changes for direct I/O from kernel space have been in for a long time, and they are blocking multiple consumers of the interface from getting submitted for about a year now. Even if the guts of the direct-io code will get a write based on another patchset from Kent that will go on top of the immutable iovec changes we need the interfaces now and not another year down the road.