From: Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: elder@kernel.org, Mark Tinguely <tinguely@sgi.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: XFS leadership and a new co-maintainer candidate
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 14:46:06 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131108204605.GA1935@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131108193424.GA11052@infradead.org>
Hey Christoph,
On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote:
> > Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at
> > Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago. The holiday season is
> > coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the
> > bear, and eat my hat. I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off
> > exploring on Mars. I trust Mark to do that because he is totally
> > awesome.
>
>
> Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you
> a fan base.
It's posted for review.
> While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel
> development making decisions without even contacting the major
> contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor
> contributor to start with.
>
> Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the
> definition from Trond here again:
>
> http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html
>
> By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should
> be the maintainer. He's been the main contributor and chief architect
> for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy
> of SGI. This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're
> doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the
> same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer
> involvement with the project, and having them officially in control
> would help us forward a lot. It would also avoid having to spend
> considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer.
>
> Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary
> XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and
> architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to
> retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done
> maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011.
I think we're doing a decent job too. So thanks for that much at least. ;)
> I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the
> unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that SGI is
> trying to enforce on the community.
That really didn't happen Christoph. It's not in my tree or in a pull request.
Linus, let me know what you want to do. I do think we're doing a fair job over
here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex is too
busy. I know the RH people want more control, and that's understandable, but
they really don't need to replace me to get their code in. Ouch.
Thanks,
Ben
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-08 20:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <527C0F64.3010906@sgi.com>
[not found] ` <527C4B27.6020205@redhat.com>
2013-11-08 11:03 ` XFS leadership and a new co-maintainer candidate Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 18:03 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 18:09 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 19:45 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 19:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-08 20:32 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 20:46 ` Ben Myers [this message]
2013-11-08 20:50 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 22:03 ` [PATCH] update xfs maintainers Ben Myers
2013-11-08 22:07 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 22:17 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 23:32 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-09 23:17 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 22:59 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2013-11-08 23:44 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-09 23:51 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-10 0:30 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-10 3:13 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-10 23:32 ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-10 23:12 ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-11 3:49 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-14 6:22 ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-15 0:33 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-14 18:25 ` Alex Elder
2013-11-12 17:32 ` XFS leadership and a new co-maintainer candidate Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-12 19:30 ` Ben Myers
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