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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 13:04:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131111120421.GB21291@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANN689Eauq+DHQrn8Wr=VU-PFGDOELz6HTabGDGERdDfeOK_UQ@mail.gmail.com>


* Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com> wrote:
> > 2) Oracle Data mining (4K pages)
> > +------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+
> > |    mmap_cache type     | hit-rate | cycles (billion) | stddev  |
> > +------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+
> > | no mmap_cache          | -        | 63.35            | 0.20207 |
> > | current mmap_cache     | 65.66%   | 19.55            | 0.35019 |
> > | mmap_cache+largest VMA | 71.53%   | 15.84            | 0.26764 |
> > | 4 element hash table   | 70.75%   | 15.90            | 0.25586 |
> > | per-thread mmap_cache  | 86.42%   | 11.57            | 0.29462 |
> > +------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+
> >
> > This workload sure makes the point of how much we can benefit of 
> > caching the vma, otherwise find_vma() can cost more than 220% extra 
> > cycles. We clearly win here by having a per-thread cache instead of 
> > per address space. I also tried the same workload with 2Mb hugepages 
> > and the results are much more closer to the kernel build, but with the 
> > per-thread vma still winning over the rest of the alternatives.
> >
> > All in all I think that we should probably have a per-thread vma 
> > cache. Please let me know if there is some other workload you'd like 
> > me to try out. If folks agree then I can cleanup the patch and send it 
> > out.
> 
> Per thread cache sounds interesting - with per-mm caches there is a real 
> risk that some modern threaded apps pay the cost of cache updates 
> without seeing much of the benefit. However, how do you cheaply handle 
> invalidations for the per thread cache ?

The cheapest way to handle that would be to have a generation counter for 
the mm and to couple cache validity to a specific value of that. 
'Invalidation' is then the free side effect of bumping the generation 
counter when a vma is removed/moved.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-11 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-01 20:17 [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 20:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-01 21:11   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-03  9:46     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-03 23:57     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-04  4:22       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 21:23 ` Rik van Riel
2013-11-03 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04  4:20   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04  4:48     ` converting unicore32 to gate_vma as done for arm (was Re: [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma) Al Viro
2013-11-05  2:49       ` 管雪涛
2013-11-11  7:25         ` converting unicore32 to gate_vma as done for arm (was " Al Viro
2013-11-04  7:00     ` [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04  7:05     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 14:20       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-04 17:52         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 18:10           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-05  8:24             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-05 14:27               ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-06  6:01                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-06 14:03                   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-11-03 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-04  4:04   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04  7:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 14:56       ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-11-11  4:12       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11  7:43         ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-11-11 12:04           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-11-11 20:47             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-13 17:08               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-13 17:59                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-13 18:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 12:01         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 18:24           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 20:47             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 20:59               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 21:09                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04  7:03   ` Christoph Hellwig

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