From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753735Ab3KKN4s (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:56:48 -0500 Received: from mail-ea0-f173.google.com ([209.85.215.173]:46965 "EHLO mail-ea0-f173.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753429Ab3KKN4l (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:56:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 14:56:37 +0100 From: Ingo Molnar To: Frederic Weisbecker Cc: Namhyung Kim , Pekka Enberg , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Peter Zijlstra , Paul Mackerras , Namhyung Kim , LKML , Stephane Eranian , Jiri Olsa , Rodrigo Campos , Arun Sharma Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCHSET 00/14] perf report: Add support to accumulate hist periods (v2) Message-ID: <20131111135637.GD8781@gmail.com> References: <20131105074650.GA2855@gmail.com> <87txfrxlq8.fsf@sejong.aot.lge.com> <20131105115802.GA12045@gmail.com> <87ppqex8tj.fsf@sejong.aot.lge.com> <20131106083046.GA4655@gmail.com> <87r4atx51i.fsf@sejong.aot.lge.com> <20131106114701.GA20249@gmail.com> <20131106121440.GB7919@localhost.localdomain> <20131111121352.GB21397@gmail.com> <20131111130844.GB26853@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20131111130844.GB26853@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Frederic Weisbecker wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 01:13:52PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > It's not an irrelevant feature at all! :-) > > > > It's just that for any sort of longer profile it was pretty > > difficult/frustrating to use, which I think held back adoption. > > > > That performance problem got fixed now by you and Namhyung, so I think > > we'll see even wider adoption of call-graph profiling... > > Ah I see now. At the time Linus reported his issue, I had the feeling > his usecase was a bit "extreme", but I actually have no idea how far > perf can be used given that I'm mostly used to short benchmarks, > typically hackbench, perf bench sched messaging et al. Thing is I don't > use it enough for my real usecases :) Well, it's a bit of a catch-22: if there are severe scalability problems for a usecase then people won't use it because they cannot use it. So developers should usually try to over-measure things and go for extreme uses and such. Thanks, Ingo