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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf top: Make -g refer to callchains
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:26:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131118142653.GA27191@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131118132510.GB24375@krava.brq.redhat.com>


* Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 09:59:45AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > Em Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 06:46:09AM +0100, Ingo Molnar escreveu:
> > > btw., here's some 'perf top' call graph performance and profiling 
> > > quality feedback, with the latest perf code:
> > > 
> > > 'perf top --call-graph fp' now works very well, using just 0.2% 
> > > of CPU time on a fast system:
> > > 
> > >  4676 mingo     20   0  612m  56m 9948 S     1  0.2   0:00.68 perf                                                                                                        
> > > 
> > > 'perf top --call-graph dwarf' on the other hand is horrendously 
> > > slow, using 20% of CPU time on a 4 GHz CPU:
> > > 
> > >   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S  %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND                                                                                                     
> > >  4646 mingo     20   0  658m  81m  12m R    19  0.3   0:18.17 perf    
> > > 
> > > On another system with a 2.4GHz CPU it's taking up 100% of CPU 
> > > time (!):
> > > 
> > >   PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND                                                                                               
> > >  8018 mingo     20   0  290320  45220   8520 R  99.5  0.3   0:58.81 perf      
> > > 
> > > Profiling 'perf top' shows all sorts of very high dwarf 
> > > processing overhead:
> > 
> > Yeah, top dwarf callchain has been so far a proof of concept, it 
> > exacerbates problems that can be seen on 'report', but since its 
> > live, we can see it more clearly.
> > 
> > The work on improving callchain processing, (rb_tree'ing, new comm 
> > infrastructure) alleviated the problem a bit.
> > 
> > Tuning the stack size requested from the kernel and using 
> > --max-stack can help when it is really needed, but yes, work on it 
> > is *badly* needed.
> 
> agreed ;-)
> 
> also there's new remote unwind interface recently added into libdw, 
> which seems to be faster than libunwind.
>
> I plan on adding this soon.

If the main source of overhead is libunwind (which needs independent 
confirmation) then would it make sense to implement dwarf stack unwind 
support ourselves?

I think SysProf does that and it appears to be faster - its unwind.c 
is only 400 lines long as it only implements the small subset needed 
to walk the stack - AFAICS.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-18 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-15  3:51 [PATCH] perf top: Make -g refer to callchains David Ahern
2013-11-15  5:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-15  5:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-18 12:59   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-11-18 13:25     ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-18 14:26       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-11-18 17:49         ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-18 19:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-18 20:16           ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-11-19  9:26             ` Jean Pihet
2013-11-19  9:33               ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-11-19  9:24     ` Jean Pihet
2013-11-30 12:49 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for David Ahern

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