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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com,
	darren@dvhart.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, sbw@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 RFC 1/3] documentation: Add needed ACCESS_ONCE() calls to memory-barriers.txt
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:13:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131122181313.GU4138@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131122153908.GQ10022@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 04:39:08PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 01:31:27PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > 
> > The Documentation/memory-barriers.txt file was written before the need
> > for ACCESS_ONCE() was fully appreciated.  It therefore contains no
> > ACCESS_ONCE() calls, which can be a problem when people lift examples
> > from it.  This commit therefore adds ACCESS_ONCE() calls.
> > 
> 
> Under the 'COMPILER BARRIER' section we state that:
> 
> "This is a general barrier - lesser varieties of compiler barrier do not
> exist."
> 
> One could argue ACCESS_ONCE() is such a lesser barrier.

Fair point -- I should have updated this section when adding ACCESS_ONCE().

How about the following?

							Thanx, Paul

------------------------------------------------------------------------

COMPILER BARRIER
----------------

The Linux kernel has an explicit compiler barrier function that prevents the
compiler from moving the memory accesses either side of it to the other side:

        barrier();

This is a general barrier -- there are no read-read or write-write variants
of barrier().  Howevever, ACCESS_ONCE() can be thought of as a weak form
for barrier() that affects only the specific accesses flagged by the
ACCESS_ONCE().

The compiler barrier has no direct effect on the CPU, which may then reorder
things however it wishes.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-22 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-21 21:30 [PATCH v2 RFC 0/3] Memory-barrier documentation updates Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 RFC 1/3] documentation: Add needed ACCESS_ONCE() calls to memory-barriers.txt Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 21:31   ` [PATCH v2 RFC 2/3] documentation: Add long atomic examples " Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 21:55   ` [PATCH v2 RFC 1/3] documentation: Add needed ACCESS_ONCE() calls " Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 22:09     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 22:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 22:32         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 11:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-22 18:54             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 15:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-22 18:13     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-11-23  9:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-23 17:17         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-04  0:47           ` Paul E. McKenney

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