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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi.kivity@gmail.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/15] KVM: MMU: introduce nulls desc
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:15:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131126101555.GI959@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5294111B.5040905@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:10:19AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> On 11/25/2013 10:23 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 02:48:37PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Xiao Guangrong
> >> <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 23, 2013, at 3:14 AM, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip complicated stuff about parent_pte>
> >>
> >> I'm not really following, but note that parent_pte predates EPT (and
> >> the use of rcu in kvm), so all the complexity that is the result of
> >> trying to pack as many list entries into a cache line can be dropped.
> >> Most setups now would have exactly one list entry, which is handled
> >> specially antyway.
> >>
> >> Alternatively, the trick of storing multiple entries in one list entry
> >> can be moved to generic code, it may be useful to others.
> > 
> > Yes, can the lockless list walking code be transformed into generic
> > single-linked list walking? So the correctness can be verified
> > independently, and KVM becomes a simple user of that interface.
> 
> I'am afraid the signle-entry list is not so good as we expected. In my
> experience, there're too many entries on rmap, more than 300 sometimes.
> (consider a case that a lib shared by all processes).
> 
This is without EPT though and non EPT HW is not performance king
anyway. Nested EPT uses shadow paging too, but VMs hardly share any
pages. With KSM they may though.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-26 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-23 13:29 [PATCH v3 00/15] KVM: MMU: locklessly write-protect Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 01/15] KVM: MMU: properly check last spte in fast_page_fault() Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-12  0:25   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 02/15] KVM: MMU: lazily drop large spte Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-12 22:44   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 03/15] KVM: MMU: flush tlb if the spte can be locklessly modified Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-13  0:10   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 04/15] KVM: MMU: flush tlb out of mmu lock when write-protect the sptes Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-14  0:36   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-14  5:15     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-14 18:39       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-15  7:09         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-19  0:19           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 05/15] KVM: MMU: update spte and add it into rmap before dirty log Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-15  0:08   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 06/15] KVM: MMU: redesign the algorithm of pte_list Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-19  0:48   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 07/15] KVM: MMU: introduce nulls desc Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-22 19:14   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-25  6:11     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25  6:29       ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25 18:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-26  3:21           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-26 10:12             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 19:31             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-28  8:53               ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-12-03  7:10                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-12-05 13:50                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-12-05 15:30                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-12-06  0:15                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-12-06  0:22                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-12-10  6:58                         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25 10:19       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-25 10:25         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25 12:48       ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-25 14:23         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-25 14:29           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-25 18:06             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-26  3:10           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-26 10:15             ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-11-26 19:58             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-28  8:32               ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25 14:08       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-26  3:02         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25  9:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 10:59       ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25 11:05         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 11:29           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 08/15] KVM: MMU: introduce pte-list lockless walker Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 09/15] KVM: MMU: initialize the pointers in pte_list_desc properly Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 10/15] KVM: MMU: allocate shadow pages from slab Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24  9:19   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-24  9:29     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24  9:52       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-24 10:10         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24 10:39           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-24 11:01             ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24 12:32               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-28  3:16                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 11/15] KVM: MMU: locklessly access shadow page under rcu protection Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 12/15] KVM: MMU: check last spte with unawareness of mapping level Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 13/15] KVM: MMU: locklessly write-protect the page Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24  9:17   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-24  9:24     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24  9:32       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 14/15] KVM: MMU: clean up spte_write_protect Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 15/15] KVM: MMU: use rcu functions to access the pointer Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-03 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] KVM: MMU: locklessly write-protect Gleb Natapov
2013-11-11  5:33   ` Xiao Guangrong

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