From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf: Move fs.* to generic lib/lk/
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 19:03:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131126180333.GC9958@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131123131243.GB24148@pd.tnic>
* Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 04:54:25PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > comet:~/tip/tools/perf> ls util/*.h
> > util/annotate.h util/data.h util/fs.h util/parse-events-bison.h util/probe-event.h util/sort.h util/thread.h util/values.h
> > util/build-id.h util/debug.h util/header.h util/parse-events-flex.h util/probe-finder.h util/stat.h util/thread_map.h util/vdso.h
> > util/cache.h util/dso.h util/help.h util/parse-events.h util/pstack.h util/strbuf.h util/tool.h util/xyarray.h
> > util/callchain.h util/dwarf-aux.h util/hist.h util/parse-options.h util/quote.h util/strfilter.h util/top.h
> > util/cgroup.h util/event.h util/intlist.h util/perf_regs.h util/rblist.h util/strlist.h util/trace-event.h
> > util/color.h util/evlist.h util/levenshtein.h util/pmu-bison.h util/run-command.h util/svghelper.h util/types.h
> > util/comm.h util/evsel.h util/machine.h util/pmu-flex.h util/session.h util/symbol.h util/unwind.h
> > util/cpumap.h util/exec_cmd.h util/map.h util/pmu.h util/sigchain.h util/target.h util/util.h
> >
> > That is pretty healty granularity IMO.
> >
> > Do we want a separate directory for each one?
>
> For each single one of them? This would be insane.
Not necessarily, if the number goes up - obviously then we'd also want
to add some second directory structure to organize them into broad
categories or so.
> > I don't see a big problem with doing that, but it could be kept in
> > tools/lib/util/ or tools/lib/core/ as well,
>
> That's much better :)
>
> > _as long as they are not lumped together
>
> Why not a single .a?
Unnecessarily longer build time.
> > That also means that these bits shouldn't really be librarized in
> > the classical sense into a single .a and linked into whatever tool
> > uses it, but should be used individually as singular targets with
> > clean .h interfaces to utilize them topically.
>
> Yeah, but why?
If a tool uses just a handful of these (hopefully quickly increasing
number of) facilities then it should not be burdened by building it
all.
> > That also means that utilities won't run into any dependency
> > problems, and the build will be faster as well as it all will be a
> > single dependency graph within a single make session.
>
> That's maybe the only half-reason for not lumping them together I've
> read so far. I say half-reason because the preprocessor already will
> include only stuff it needs. And if that were a problem, glibc
> would've been multiple libs too.
The preprocessor does nothing with the .a - eliminating extra stuff
from the .a is a link time step, and that means the whole .a will be
built first ... just to throw away bits of it.
( Also, arguably, from a sw design POV glibc should probably have been
multiple libs, but that's water down the bridge. No need to
repeat/clone such mistakes though. )
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-26 18:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-20 21:56 [PATCH] perf: Move fs.* to generic lib/lk/ Borislav Petkov
2013-11-21 7:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-21 10:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-21 11:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-21 11:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-21 11:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-21 12:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-21 12:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-21 13:49 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-21 13:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-11-21 14:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-21 15:12 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-11-21 15:05 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-11-21 15:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-21 17:37 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-11-21 19:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-22 12:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-22 13:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-22 15:00 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-11-22 15:20 ` David Ahern
2013-11-22 15:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-22 15:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-23 13:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-26 18:03 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-11-27 15:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-23 13:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-26 18:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-27 15:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-28 12:16 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-12-02 20:30 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-11-22 14:57 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-11-22 15:43 ` Ingo Molnar
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