From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754729Ab3LJPrz (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Dec 2013 10:47:55 -0500 Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com ([74.125.83.44]:38117 "EHLO mail-ee0-f44.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752309Ab3LJPrx (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Dec 2013 10:47:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:47:48 +0100 From: Ingo Molnar To: Alexei Starovoitov Cc: Steven Rostedt , Andi Kleen , Peter Zijlstra , "H. Peter Anvin" , Thomas Gleixner , Masami Hiramatsu , Tom Zanussi , Jovi Zhangwei , Eric Dumazet , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH tip 0/5] tracing filters with BPF Message-ID: <20131210154748.GA1950@gmail.com> References: <1386044930-15149-1-git-send-email-ast@plumgrid.com> <87fvq9cwlk.fsf@tassilo.jf.intel.com> <20131205104113.GB20283@gmail.com> <20131205084657.09b6a2ce@gandalf.local.home> <20131205183735.5f9c8bae@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Alexei Starovoitov wrote: > > I'm fine if it becomes a requirement to have a vmlinux built with > > DEBUG_INFO to use BPF and have a tool like perf to translate the > > filters. But it that must not replace what the current filters do > > now. That is, it can be an add on, but not a replacement. > > Of course. tracing filters via bpf is an additional tool for kernel > debugging. bpf by itself has use cases beyond tracing. Well, Steve has a point: forcing DEBUG_INFO is a big showstopper for most people. Would it be possible to make BFP filters recognize exposed details like the current filters do, without depending on the vmlinux? Thanks, Ingo