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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Mike Galbraith <bitbucket@online.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeremy Eder <jeder@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: 50 Watt idle power regression bisected to Linux-3.10
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:50:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131211175036.GC12431@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131211164318.GA2480@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 03:56:55PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 01:43:52PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > Something like the below.. someone needs to double check and possibly
> > > > add SNB/IVB EX parts if they're already available.
> > > 
> > > Right, our friends at Intel would need to tell us which 
> > > families/models does AAI65 span... if, this is actually the 
> > > case.
> > 
> > I think CLFLUSH should be pretty universally available, IIRC 
> > graphics drivers were using it rather heavily in combination with 
> > write-combining MTRRs, both on Linux and on Windows.
> 
> The availability isn't the problem; the cost is. We shouldn't issue 
> one if its not required. Only 'broken' EX hardware needs it.

Well, availability could be a problem too, if some CPU (real or 
virtual) implements MWAIT but not CLFLUSH.

In theory we could make mwait an alternatives variant and patch in the 
right combination of instructions? The CLFLUSH goes to the same 
address as on which the monitoring happens, so it could be considered 
one meta-instruction.

Thansk,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-11 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-07  8:00 50 Watt idle power regression bisected to Linux-3.10 Len Brown
2013-12-07  8:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-07 16:01   ` Len Brown
2013-12-07 16:45     ` Len Brown
2013-12-07 19:17       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-10 11:41         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-07 12:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-08  4:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-08 20:40   ` Len Brown
2013-12-09  3:16     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-10  5:17       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-10 11:45         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-10 14:29         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-10 15:06           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-11  2:05           ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-11  3:21             ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-11 11:28               ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-11 11:38                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-12-11 11:52                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-11 12:29                     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-11 12:43                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-11 13:10                         ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-11 13:40                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-12-11 14:56                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-11 16:02                             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-12-11 16:43                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-11 17:50                               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-12-11 23:08                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-11 23:14                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-12-12  0:52                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-12  4:25                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-12  4:49                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-12  4:59                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-12  5:37                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-12  5:45                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-12  5:57                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-12  6:05                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-12-12  7:57                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-12  8:51                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-12 13:28                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-12 15:06                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-12 15:51                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-11 14:42                         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-11 15:02                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-11 15:09                             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-11 16:44                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-11 17:48                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-11 16:44                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-11 17:47                             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-11 21:43                     ` Len Brown
2013-12-11 22:22                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-18 21:44 ` [PATCH] x86 idle: repair large-server 50-watt idle-power regression Len Brown
2013-12-19 12:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 14:40     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 15:45       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-12-19 15:55     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 16:02       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 16:09         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 16:13         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 16:21           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-19 16:50             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 17:07               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 17:25                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-19 17:36                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-19 18:05                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 18:14                       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 17:50                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-19 18:18                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 21:05                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 21:17                         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 18:10                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 18:09                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 18:19                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 18:23                     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                       ` <CA+55aFzGxcML7j8CEvQPYzh0W81uVoAAVmGctMOUZ7CZ1yYd2A@mail.gmail.com>
2013-12-19 18:43                         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 20:09                         ` [tip:x86/idle] x86, idle: Use static_cpu_has() for CLFLUSH workaround, add barriers tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 20:40                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 20:46                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-19 21:14                               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 21:25                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-19 21:55                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-20  8:47                               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 20:33                         ` [tip:x86/idle] x86, idle: Add memory barriers around clflush in mwait_play_dead() tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 18:19                   ` [PATCH] x86 idle: repair large-server 50-watt idle-power regression Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 19:22                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 19:27                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-19 19:51   ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86 idle: Repair " tip-bot for Len Brown
2014-03-18  0:20     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-18  9:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-19  2:14         ` Jason Low
2014-03-19  6:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-08 21:43       ` Brown, Len
2014-04-09  8:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-15  3:27         ` Davidlohr Bueso

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