From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
tglx@linutronix.de, davej@redhat.com,
linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:core/rcu] rcu: Break call_rcu() deadlock involving scheduler and perf
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:45:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131216154539.GY21999@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131216153248.GA4200@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 07:32:48AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 04:26:36PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 07:19:22AM -0800, tip-bot for Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > The underlying problem is that perf is invoking call_rcu() with the
> > > scheduler locks held, but in NOCB mode, call_rcu() will with high
> > > probability invoke the scheduler -- which just might want to use its
> > > locks. The reason that call_rcu() needs to invoke the scheduler is
> > > to wake up the corresponding rcuo callback-offload kthread, which
> > > does the job of starting up a grace period and invoking the callbacks
> > > afterwards.
> > >
> > > One solution (championed on a related problem by Lai Jiangshan) is to
> > > simply defer the wakeup to some point where scheduler locks are no longer
> > > held. Since we don't want to unnecessarily incur the cost of such
> > > deferral, the task before us is threefold:
> > >
> > > 1. Determine when it is likely that a relevant scheduler lock is held.
> > >
> > > 2. Defer the wakeup in such cases.
> > >
> > > 3. Ensure that all deferred wakeups eventually happen, preferably
> > > sooner rather than later.
> > >
> > > We use irqs_disabled_flags() as a proxy for relevant scheduler locks
> > > being held. This works because the relevant locks are always acquired
> > > with interrupts disabled. We may defer more often than needed, but that
> > > is at least safe.
> >
> > This would also allow us to do away with things like the below patch,
> > right?
>
> It takes care of one problem, but there are others, including
> rcu_read_unlock() inovking the scheduler to deboost itself. So for the
> moment, we still need the below patch.
Oh right, see I knew I was forgetting something... :-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-16 15:45 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <tip-96d3fd0d315a949e30adc80f086031c5cdf070d1@git.kernel.org>
2013-12-16 15:26 ` [tip:core/rcu] rcu: Break call_rcu() deadlock involving scheduler and perf Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-16 15:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-16 15:45 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-12-16 16:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
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