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From: josh@joshtriplett.org
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Rashika Kheria <rashika.kheria@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] drivers: usb: Include appropriate header file in hcd.h
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:53:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131219165310.GA1893@cloud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1312191142501.984-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:48:15AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 josh@joshtriplett.org wrote:
> 
> > > Of course, people have varying opinions on this issue.  As far as I 
> > > know, there is no fixed policy in the kernel about nested includes.
> > 
> > True.  I personally prefer the policy of making all headers
> > self-contained, and then only including headers that define things used
> > in the source file.  That has the advantage of not including any
> > unnecessary headers if the dependencies shrink, and not requiring
> > changes to multiple source files if the dependencies grow.
> > 
> > Any particular objection to making the headers self-contained?
> 
> I guess it depends on what you mean by "self-contained".  The only 
> reasonable definition I can think of at the moment is that you don't 
> get any errors or warnings when you compile the .h file by itself.

Or, to look at it another way, you can #include the .h file in a .c file
without any other .h file, and successfully compile the .c file and use
everything defined by the .h file.

> For that matter, how can you tell that you are including only headers 
> that define things used in the source file?  Remove each #include line, 
> one at a time, and see if you then get an error?  Do you do this after 
> each change to the source file to make sure it remains true over time?
>
> My point is that the C language design and compiler infrastructure make 
> it virtually impossible to enforce any fixed policy.

And that leaves aside all the preprocessor symbols that might change
what a header defines.  I'd argue for a best-effort policy, together
with fixing headers whenever someone notices that they're *not*
self-contained (in other words, they include a .h file to get a
definition they need, and get a compile error).

- Josh Triplett

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-19 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-19 10:06 [PATCH 1/7] drivers: usb: Include appropriate header file in hcd.c Rashika Kheria
2013-12-19 10:07 ` [PATCH 2/7] drivers: usb: Include appropriate header file in configfs.c Rashika Kheria
2013-12-19 10:09 ` [PATCH 3/7] drivers: usb: Include appropriate header file in hcd.h Rashika Kheria
2013-12-19 15:45   ` Alan Stern
2013-12-19 16:37     ` josh
2013-12-19 16:48       ` Alan Stern
2013-12-19 16:53         ` josh [this message]
2013-12-19 18:03         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-12-19 19:48           ` Alan Stern
2013-12-19 17:14     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-12-19 16:38       ` Alan Stern
2013-12-19 17:48         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-12-19 16:21   ` David Laight
2013-12-19 10:10 ` [PATCH 4/7] drivers: usb: Include appropriate header file in pci-quirks.c Rashika Kheria
2013-12-19 15:51   ` Alan Stern
2013-12-19 16:00     ` josh
2013-12-19 10:12 ` [PATCH 5/7] drivers: usb: Mark function as static in usbsevseg.c Rashika Kheria
2013-12-19 10:13 ` [PATCH 6/7] drivers: usb: Mark function as static in metro-usb.c Rashika Kheria
2013-12-19 10:14 ` [PATCH 7/7] drivers: usb: Include appropriate header file in phy-am335x-control.c Rashika Kheria
2013-12-19 16:36 ` [PATCH 1/7] drivers: usb: Include appropriate header file in hcd.c Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-19 16:41   ` Rashika Kheria
2013-12-19 16:58     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-12-19 17:33       ` David Laight
2013-12-19 18:35         ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-20  9:40           ` David Laight
2013-12-19 18:34       ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-19 18:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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