public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Timo Teras <timo.teras@iki.fi>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] fs/binfmt_elf: fix memory map for PIE applications
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:26:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131219172644.7bb5f332@vostro> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1312191558140.11852@pobox.suse.cz>

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:02:19 +0100 (CET)
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz> wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013, Timo Teras wrote:
> 
> > As you see, the main executable is mapped 57620000-57708000 and
> > 57708000-5770a000. Heap follow immediately after that
> > 5770a000-5770c000 followed by anything mmaped after it (stack or
> > some other libraries). Heap can grow only up to 5ffdf000 meaning the
> > application is limited to 140 megs or so in this instance. This
> > limit can go much lower depending how the randomization went. And
> > even 140 megs is very little for big apps.
> 
> So what is the real problem again (i.e. the actual symptoms), please?
> Is it that your userspace memory allocator doesn't use mmap() for
> allocations at all?

Random application failures with uclibc and musl c-libraries. Both seem
to use mmap() for large allocations, and brk() for small ones. IIRC,
there was also some minor breakage with other applications that use
brk() to do some self-accounting / other funny stuff.

While this is not strictly a bug, I would still hope that the memory
layout is configured for maximum compatibility... or do you see it
introducing unwanted side effects?

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-19 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-02  7:19 [PATCH RFC] fs/binfmt_elf: fix memory map for PIE applications Timo Teräs
2013-12-19 14:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-12-19 14:42   ` Timo Teras
2013-12-19 15:02     ` Jiri Kosina
2013-12-19 15:26       ` Timo Teras [this message]
2013-12-19 15:33         ` Jiri Kosina

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20131219172644.7bb5f332@vostro \
    --to=timo.teras@iki.fi \
    --cc=jkosina@suse.cz \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox