From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Alex Shi <alex.shi@linaro.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Linux-X86 <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:18:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131220111818.GA23349@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131220111303.GZ11295@suse.de>
* Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 05:49:25PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > * Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > Because we lack data on TLB range flush distributions I think we
> > > should still go with the conservative choice for the TLB flush
> > > shift. The worst case is really bad here and it's painfully obvious
> > > on ebizzy.
> >
> > So I'm obviously much in favor of this - I'd in fact suggest
> > making the conservative choice on _all_ CPU models that have
> > aggressive TLB range values right now, because frankly the testing
> > used to pick those values does not look all that convincing to me.
>
> I think the choices there are already reasonably conservative. I'd
> be reluctant to support merging a patch that made a choice on all
> CPU models without having access to the machines to run tests on. I
> don't see the Intel people volunteering to do the necessary testing.
So based on this thread I lost confidence in test results on all CPU
models but the one you tested.
I see two workable options right now:
- We turn the feature off on all other CPU models, until someone
measures and tunes them reliably.
or
- We make all tunings that are more aggressive than yours to match
yours. In the future people can measure and argue for more
aggressive tunings.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-20 11:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-13 20:01 [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2 Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86: mm: Clean up inconsistencies when flushing TLB ranges Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: mm: Account for TLB flushes only when debugging Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86: mm: Change tlb_flushall_shift for IvyBridge Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86: mm: Eliminate redundant page table walk during TLB range flushing Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 21:16 ` [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2 Linus Torvalds
2013-12-13 22:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-16 10:39 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-17 9:55 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 15:55 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 16:17 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 18:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-16 11:16 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 10:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-16 12:59 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 13:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-17 9:21 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-17 9:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-17 11:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-17 14:32 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-17 14:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-17 17:54 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-18 10:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 14:24 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-19 16:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 11:13 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 11:18 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-12-20 12:00 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 12:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 13:55 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-18 10:32 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Assign correct scheduling domain to ' sd_llc' tip-bot for Mel Gorman
2013-12-18 7:28 ` [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2 Fengguang Wu
2013-12-19 14:34 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 15:51 ` Fengguang Wu
2013-12-20 16:44 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-21 15:49 ` Fengguang Wu
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