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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.com>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, mingo@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kobject: provide kobject_put_wait to fix module unload race
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 22:05:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140105060531.GD18213@core.coreip.homeip.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140105034228.GC22595@kroah.com>

On Sat, Jan 04, 2014 at 07:42:28PM -0800, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 04, 2014 at 03:35:39PM -0500, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 4 Jan 2014, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Jan 04, 2014 at 01:06:01PM -0500, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > 
> > > > I noticed that Jeff Mahoney added a new structure kobj_completion, defined 
> > > > in include/linux/kobj_completion.h to the kernel 3.13-rc1 in the patch 
> > > > eee031649707db3c9920d9498f8d03819b74fc23. In the current upstream kernel, 
> > > > this interface is still unused.
> > > 
> > > There are pending btrfs patches to use this interface.
> > > 
> > > > However, converting the drivers to use kobj_completion is not trivial 
> > > > (note that all users of the original kobject interface are buggy - so all 
> > > > of them need to be converted).
> > > 
> > > Wait, what?  How are "all users" buggy?  Please explain this in detail.
> > 
> > 1) some code takes a reference to a kobject
> > 2) the user unloads the device
> > 3) the device driver unload routine calls kobject_put (but there is still 
> >    reference, so the kobject is not destroyed)
> 
> A driver should never be messing around with "raw" kobjects, they should
> be using a 'struct device' which is created/managed by the subsystem
> they belong to.  See Dmitry's example of input and serio as ways to do
> this, also USB and PCI do this properly.

Well, Mikulas is correct in the sense that there is still a race between
release function invoking the final module_put() and getting preempted
and module getting unloaded by another thread. Hitting this race is
pretty hard though.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-05  6:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-04 18:06 [PATCH] kobject: provide kobject_put_wait to fix module unload race Mikulas Patocka
2014-01-04 18:14 ` Jeff Mahoney
2014-01-05  3:48   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-01-04 18:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-01-04 18:34   ` Al Viro
2014-01-04 22:42     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-01-05 22:11       ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-01-05 22:39         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-01-06 18:43           ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-01-04 20:35   ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-01-05  3:42     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-01-05  6:05       ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2014-01-05 18:27         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-01-05 22:04       ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-01-05 22:23         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-01-05 16:43 ` [dm-devel] " Bart Van Assche
2014-01-05 18:26   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-01-06 18:55     ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-01-06 19:23       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-01-06 21:31       ` Mike Snitzer
2014-01-07  4:01         ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-01-07  5:25           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-07 18:00             ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-01-07 19:19               ` Mike Snitzer
2014-01-07 20:16                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-01-07 22:32                   ` Mike Snitzer
2014-01-07 14:16           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-01-07 18:16             ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-01-07 18:26             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-01-05 22:04   ` [dm-devel] [PATCH] " Mikulas Patocka

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