From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P" <peter.p.waskiewicz.jr@intel.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
"containers@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"cgroups@vger.kernel.org" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] x86: Add Cache QoS Monitoring (CQM) support
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 19:06:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140106180636.GG30183@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1389026867.32504.16.camel@ppwaskie-mobl.amr.corp.intel.com>
On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 04:47:57PM +0000, Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P wrote:
> > As is I don't really see a good use for RMIDs and I would simply not use
> > them.
>
> If you want to use CQM in the hardware, then the RMID is how you get the
> cache usage data from the CPU. If you don't want to use CQM, then you
> can ignore RMIDs.
I think you can make do with a single RMID (per cpu). When you program
the counter (be it for a task, cpu or cgroup context) you set the 1 RMID
and EVSEL and read the CTR.
What I'm not entirely clear on is if the EVSEL and CTR MSR are per
logical CPU or per L3 (package); /me prays they're per logical CPU.
> One of the best use cases for using RMIDs is in virtualization.
*groan*.. /me plugs wax in ears and goes la-la-la-la
> A VM
> may be a heavy cache user, or a light cache user. Tracing different VMs
> on different RMIDs can allow an admin to identify which VM may be
> causing high levels of eviction, and either migrate it to another host,
> or move other tasks/VMs to other hosts. Without CQM, it's much harder
> to find which process is eating the cache up.
Not necessarily VMs, there's plenty large processes that exhibit similar
problems.. why must people always do VMs :-(
That said, even with a single RMID you can get that information by
simply running it against all competing processes one at a time. Since
there's limited RMID space you need to rotate at some point anyway.
The cgroup interface you propose wouldn't allow for rotation; other than
manual by creating different cgroups one after another.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-06 18:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-03 20:34 [PATCH 0/4] x86: Add Cache QoS Monitoring (CQM) support Peter P Waskiewicz Jr
2014-01-03 20:34 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86: Add support for Cache QoS Monitoring (CQM) detection Peter P Waskiewicz Jr
2014-01-03 20:34 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: Add Cache QoS Monitoring support to x86 perf uncore Peter P Waskiewicz Jr
2014-01-03 20:34 ` [PATCH 3/4] cgroup: Add new cacheqos cgroup subsys to support Cache QoS Monitoring Peter P Waskiewicz Jr
2014-01-03 20:34 ` [PATCH 4/4] Documentation: Add documentation for cacheqos cgroup Peter P Waskiewicz Jr
2014-01-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 0/4] x86: Add Cache QoS Monitoring (CQM) support Tejun Heo
2014-01-04 22:43 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-01-04 22:50 ` Tejun Heo
2014-01-05 5:23 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-01-06 11:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-06 16:34 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-01-06 16:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-06 16:47 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-01-06 17:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-06 18:05 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-01-06 18:06 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-01-06 20:10 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-01-06 21:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-06 21:48 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-01-06 22:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-06 22:45 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-01-07 8:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 15:15 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-01-07 21:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-10 18:55 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-01-13 7:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-14 17:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-27 17:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-18 17:29 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-02-18 19:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-18 19:54 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-02-20 16:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-14 20:46 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2014-01-06 11:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-06 16:42 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
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