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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] mm: fix the theoretical compound_lock() vs prep_new_page() race
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 17:13:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140108161338.GA10434@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140108115400.GD27046@suse.de>

On 01/08, Mel Gorman wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 04, 2014 at 05:43:47PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > 	get/put_page(thp_tail) paths do get_page_unless_zero(page_head) +
> > 	compound_lock(). In theory this page_head can be already freed and
> > 	reallocated as alloc_pages(__GFP_COMP, smaller_order). In this case
> > 	get_page_unless_zero() can succeed right after set_page_refcounted(),
> > 	and compound_lock() can race with the non-atomic __SetPageHead() in
> > 	prep_compound_page().
> >
> This patch is putting a write barrier in the page allocator fast path and
> that is going to be a leading cause of Sad Face. We already have seen
> large regressions before when write barriers were introduced to the page
> allocator paths for cpusets.  Sticking it under CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
> does not really address the issue.

As you already mentioned in another email, smp_wmb() is mostly nop. On
x86_64 at least. Although perhaps it would be nice to have

	static inline void atomic_store_release(atomic_t *v, int i)
	{
		smp_store_release(&v->counter, i);
	}

> > Yes, but thp can access this page_head via stale pointer, tail->first_page,
> > if it races with split_huge_page_refcount().
>
> To justify the introduction of a performance regression we need to be 100%
> sure this race actually exists

See below. But let me remind that I never looked at this code before,
I can be easily wrong.

> and not just theoretical.

It is theoretical anyway, I guess.

> For futex, the THP page (and the tail) must have been discovered via
> the page tables in which case the page tables are temporarily preventing
> the page being freed to the allocator.

Yes. But, for example, get_futex_key() does

	if (unlikely(PageTail(page))) {
		put_page(page);

why this put_page() can't race with _split? If nothing else, another thread
can unmap the part of this vma.

> > For example, __get_page_tail() roughly does:
> >
> > 	// PageTail(page) was already checked
> >
> > 	page_head = page->first_page;
> >
> > 	/* WINDOW */
> >
> > 	get_page_unless_zero(page_head);
> >
> > 	compound_lock(page_head);
> >
> > 	recheck PageTail(page) to ensure page_head is still valid
> >
> > However, in the WINDOW above, split_huge_page() can split this huge page.
> > After that its head can be freed and reallocated. Of course, I don't think
> > it is possible to hit this race in practice, but still this looks wrong.
> >
>
> I can't think of a reason why we would actually hit that race in practice

Agreed, the window is tiny, unlikely this possible.

> I do not think we
> should stick a write barrier into the page allocator fast path.

OK, I won't argue, I leave this to you and Andrea.


But I still think this code needs other cleanups/simplifications. In
particular get_futex_key()->__get_user_pages_fast() should die imho.

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-08 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-10 15:47 process 'stuck' at exit Dave Jones
2013-12-10 18:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 19:18   ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-10 19:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 20:27       ` Dave Jones
2013-12-10 20:34         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-10 20:55           ` Dave Jones
2013-12-10 21:25             ` Darren Hart
2013-12-10 21:28               ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-10 21:39                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-10 20:33       ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-10 20:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 21:17           ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-10 20:35       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10 20:49         ` Dave Jones
2013-12-10 21:06           ` Darren Hart
2013-12-10 21:12             ` Dave Jones
2013-12-10 21:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 21:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 21:32               ` Dave Jones
2013-12-10 21:49                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 21:56                   ` Dave Jones
2013-12-10 21:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 22:07                       ` Dave Jones
2013-12-11 12:45                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-10 21:34           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10 21:41             ` Dave Jones
2013-12-10 21:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 22:02                 ` Dave Jones
2013-12-10 22:09                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10 22:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 22:33                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 22:38                     ` Darren Hart
2013-12-10 22:57                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-10 23:05                       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 23:28                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-10 23:31                         ` Al Viro
2013-12-11 17:08                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-11 17:18                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-11 17:56                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-11 19:18                           ` PATCH? introduce get_compound_page (Was: process 'stuck' at exit) Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-13 15:10                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-12-13 16:22                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-13 17:34                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-12-16 18:36                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-16 20:19                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-12-16 20:46                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-17 16:53                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-17 18:06                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-12-18 19:19                                             ` [PATCH -mm 0/7] (Was: introduce get_compound_page) Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-18 19:19                                               ` [PATCH -mm 1/7] mm: thp: introduce __put_nontail_page() Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-18 19:19                                               ` [PATCH -mm 2/7] mm: thp: change __get_page_tail() to use __put_nontail_page() Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-18 19:19                                               ` [PATCH -mm 3/7] mm: change release_pages() to use put_page() rather than put_compound_page() Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-18 19:19                                               ` [PATCH -mm 4/7] mm: thp: turn put_compound_page() into __put_page_tail() Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-18 19:36                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-18 19:50                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-18 19:20                                               ` [PATCH -mm 5/7] mm: thp: reorganize out_put_single code in __put_page_tail() Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-18 19:20                                               ` [PATCH -mm 6/7] mm: thp: introduce get_lock_thp_head() Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-18 21:37                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-19 16:29                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-18 19:20                                               ` [PATCH -mm 7/7] mm: thp: introduce compound_head_put_tail(), change get_futex_key() to use it Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-18 19:28                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-18 19:40                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-19 19:08                                       ` [PATCH 0/1] mm: fix the theoretical compound_lock() vs prep_new_page() race Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-19 19:09                                         ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-23 11:43                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-01-03 19:55                                             ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-03 19:55                                               ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-03 21:00                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2014-01-04 16:43                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-08 11:54                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-08 13:14                                                       ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-08 16:13                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-01-08 18:02                                                         ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-08 19:04                                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-09 11:27                                                             ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-09 14:04                                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-09 18:52                                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-01-09 19:43                                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-09 21:36                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-01-10 16:12                                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-10 16:50                                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-10 16:12                                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 14:19                                         ` [PATCH 0/1] " Martin Schwidefsky
2013-12-16 20:19                                   ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: thp: get_huge_page_tail() cleanups Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-16 20:19                                     ` [PATCH -mm 1/2] mm: thp: __get_page_tail_foll() can use get_huge_page_tail() Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-16 20:19                                     ` [PATCH -mm 2/2] mm: thp: turn compound_head() into BUG_ON(!PageTail) in get_huge_page_tail() Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-16 20:27                                     ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: thp: get_huge_page_tail() cleanups Andrea Arcangeli
2013-12-10 22:42                   ` process 'stuck' at exit Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-10 22:48                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 22:58                       ` Darren Hart
2013-12-10 23:01                         ` Dave Jones
2013-12-10 23:00                       ` Dave Jones
2013-12-11  0:05                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-11  0:23                           ` Dave Jones
2013-12-11  0:55                             ` Dave Jones
2013-12-14 20:17                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-11  4:09                       ` Dave Jones
2013-12-12  4:26                       ` Dave Jones
2013-12-12  5:29                         ` Darren Hart
2013-12-10 22:51                     ` Darren Hart
2013-12-10 23:24                     ` Al Viro
2013-12-11 16:31                     ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-11 16:38                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-11 17:57                         ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-12 19:00                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-12-12 19:03                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10 22:09               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-10 22:16                 ` Dave Jones
2013-12-10 22:21                   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-10 22:27                     ` Dave Jones
2013-12-11  1:02     ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-10 20:57   ` Darren Hart
2013-12-10 21:09     ` Dave Jones

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