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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
Cc: Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] zram: introduce zram compressor operations struct
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:09:45 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140121000945.GG28712@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140120100348.GB2178@swordfish>

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 01:03:48PM +0300, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (01/20/14 14:12), Minchan Kim wrote:
> > Hello Sergey,
> > 
> > I reviewed this patchset and I suggest somethings.
> > Please have a look and feedback to me. :)
> > 
> > 1. Let's define new file zram_comp.c
> > 2. zram_comp includes following field
> >    .create
> >    .compress
> >    .decompress.
> >    .destroy
> >    .name
> > 
> 
> alternatively, we can use crypto api, the same way as zswap does (that
> will require handling of cpu hotplug).
> 
> 	-ss

I really doubt what's the benefit from crypto API for zram.
It's maybe since I'm not familiar with it so I should ask a silly
question.

1. What's the runtime overhead for using such frontend?

   As you know, zram is in-memory block device so I don't want to
   add unnecessary overhead to optimize.

2. What's the memory footprint for using such frontend?

   As you know, zram is very popular for small-memory embedded device
   so I don't want to consume more runtime memory and static memory
   due to CONFIG_CRYPTO friend.

3. Is it a flexible to alloc/handle multiple compressor buffer for
   the our purpose? zswap and zcache have been used it with per-cpu
   buffer but it would a problem for write scalabitliy if we uses zlib
   which takes long time to compress.
   When I read code, maybe we can allocate multiple buffers through
   cryptop_alloc_compo several time but it would cause 1) and 2) problem
   again.
   
So, what's the attractive point for using crypto?
One of thing I could imagine is that it could make zram H/W compressor
but I don't have heard about it so if we don't have any special reason,
I'd like to go with raw compressor so we can get a *base* number. Then,
if we really need crypto API, we can change it easily and benchmark.
Finally, we could get a comparision number in future and it would make
the decision easily.

Thanks.

-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-21  0:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-17 11:04 [RFC PATCH 0/3] add LZ4 compression support Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-01-17 11:04 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] zram: delete zram_init_device() function Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-01-20  4:43   ` Minchan Kim
2014-01-17 11:04 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] zram: introduce zram compressor operations struct Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-01-20  5:12   ` Minchan Kim
2014-01-20  8:39     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-01-20 10:03     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-01-21  0:09       ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2014-01-21  8:47         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-01-17 11:04 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] zram: list and select compression algorithms Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-01-20  5:18   ` Minchan Kim

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