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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Mike Galbraith <bitbucket@online.de>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Too many rescheduling interrupts (still!)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:43:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140212164356.GB27965@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFTL4hyJtUHaT39NmM71=Ho4fp28PJ+-KezQryXJE_gTEMaHqA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 04:59:52PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> 2014-02-12 11:13 GMT+01:00 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>:
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 02:34:11PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >> >> A small number of reschedule interrupts appear to be due to a race:
> >> >> both resched_task and wake_up_idle_cpu do, essentially:
> >> >>
> >> >> set_tsk_need_resched(t);
> >> >> smb_mb();
> >> >> if (!tsk_is_polling(t))
> >> >>   smp_send_reschedule(cpu);
> >> >>
> >> >> The problem is that set_tsk_need_resched wakes the CPU and, if the CPU
> >> >> is too quick (which isn't surprising if it was in C0 or C1), then it
> >> >> could *clear* TS_POLLING before tsk_is_polling is read.
> >
> > Yeah we have the wrong default for the idle loops.. it should default to
> > polling and only switch to !polling at the very last moment if it really
> > needs an interrupt to wake.
> >
> > Changing this requires someone (probably me again :/) to audit all arch
> > cpu idle drivers/functions.
> 
> Looking at wake_up_idle_cpu(), we set need_resched and send the IPI.
> On the other end, the CPU wakes up, exits the idle loop and even goes
> to the scheduler while there is probably no task to schedule.
> 
> I wonder if this is all necessary. All we need is the timer to be
> handled by the dynticks code to re-evaluate the next tick. So calling
> irq_exit() -> tick_nohz_irq_exit() from the scheduler_ipi() should be
> enough.

No no, the idea was to NOT send IPIs. So falling out of idle by writing
TIF_NEED_RESCHED and having the idle loop fixup the timers on its way
back to idle is what you want.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-12 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-11 20:23 Too many rescheduling interrupts (still!) Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-11 21:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-02-11 22:34   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-12 10:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-12 15:49       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-12 16:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-12 18:19           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-12 20:17             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-13  1:40               ` [RFC] sched: Add a new lockless wake-from-idle implementation Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-13  9:38                 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-02-13 14:49                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-02-13 14:50                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-13 17:07                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-13 20:16                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-13 20:35                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-13 19:58                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-14  1:38                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-14 20:01                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-14 20:17                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-14 21:19                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-12 15:59       ` Too many rescheduling interrupts (still!) Frederic Weisbecker
2014-02-12 16:43         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-02-12 17:46           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-02-12 18:15             ` Peter Zijlstra

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