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From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
To: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrew Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	Aditya Kali <adityakali@google.com>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, criu@openvz.org,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [CRIU] [PATCH 1/3] prctl: reduce permissions to change boundaries of data, brk and stack
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 00:06:22 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140214200622.GN13358@moon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52FE72C1.9090100@parallels.com>

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:47:13PM +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> >> Maybe we could improve this api and provide argument as a pointer
> >> to a structure, which would have all the fields we're going to
> >> modify, which in turn would allow us to verify that all new values
> >> are sane and fit rlimits, then we could (probably) deprecate old
> >> api if noone except c/r camp is using it (I actually can't imagine
> >> who else might need this api). Then CAP_SYS_RESOURCE requirement
> >> could be ripped off. Hm? (sure touching api is always "no-no"
> >> case, but maybe...)
> > 
> > Hmm.  Let me rewind this a little bit.
> > 
> > I want to be very stupid and ask the following.
> > 
> > Why can't you have the process of interest do:
> > 	ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACHME);
> > 	execve(executable, args, ...);
> >         
> >         /* Have the ptracer inject the recovery/fixup code */
> > 	    /* Fix up the mostly correct process to look like it has been
> >          * executing for a while.
> >          */

Erik, it seems I don't understand how it will help us to restore
the mm fields mentioned above?

> Let's imagine we do that.
> 
> This means, that the whole memory contents should be restored _after_
> the execve() call, since the execve() flushes old mappings. In
> that case we lose the ability to preserve any shared memory regions
> between any two processes. This "shared" can be either regular
> MAP_SHARED mappings or MAP_ANONYMOUS but still not COW-ed ones.
> 
> > That should work, set all of the interesting fields, and works as
> > non-root today.  My gut feel says do that and we can just
> > deprecate/remove prctl_set_mm.
> > 
> > I am hoping we can move this conversation what makes sense from oh ick
> > checkpoint/restort does not work with user namespaces.

I fear you've got a wrong impression that we're "ick'ing" about user-ns ;)
Actually it's "must have" feature for containers thus we would _really_
love to be able to c/r them.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-14 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-14 14:13 [PATCH RFC 0/3] c/r: add ability to restore mm attributes in a non-root userns Andrey Vagin
2014-02-14 14:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] prctl: reduce permissions to change boundaries of data, brk and stack Andrey Vagin
2014-02-14 16:05   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-02-14 17:43     ` Andrew Vagin
2014-02-14 18:01       ` [CRIU] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-02-14 19:16         ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-02-14 19:47           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-02-14 20:06             ` Cyrill Gorcunov [this message]
2014-02-14 20:18               ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-02-15  6:29                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-02-15 23:01                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-02-14 20:09             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-02-17  8:34               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-02-17  8:52                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-02-17 16:57                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-03-07 13:51                 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-02-14 20:44           ` Andrey Wagin
2014-02-15 23:05             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-02-14 14:13 ` [PATCH 2/3] capabilities: add a secure bit to allow changing a task exe link Andrey Vagin
2014-02-18  4:53   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-02-14 14:13 ` [PATCH 3/3] prctl: allow to use PR_MM_SET_* which affect only a current task Andrey Vagin

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