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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davi@redhat.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next] mm,vmacache: also flush cache for VM_CLONE
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 17:36:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140313163632.GA30737@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyNd7L+G3hFauJPxUOengK-_o2G-SFmVooPZ-sE6xBj=g@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/13, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Mar 13, 2014 8:11 AM, "Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Suppose that a kernel thread T does, say,
> >
> >         use_mm(foreign_mm);
> >         get_user(...);
> >         unuse_mm();
>
> That would be a major bug. Kernel threads cannot access use memory.

Unless a kernel thread does use_mm() ;)

> Has
> somebody added anything that crazy?

Hmm. aio no longer uses use_mm()... But there are other users:

	drivers/usb/gadget/inode.c  582   use_mm(mm);
	drivers/vhost/vhost.c       211   use_mm(dev->mm);
	virt/kvm/async_pf.c          68   use_mm(mm);

And yes, they do copy_to/from_user().

Hmm, but at first glance async_pf_execute() doesn't need use_mm() at all.
And perhaps other callers can use get_user_pages() too.

> The kernel thread "use_mm" is to avoid unnecessary context switches of the
> tlb when switching to a kennel thread, exactly *because* a kernel thread is
> never supposed to access use space, so it cannot care what user memory is
> attached.

It seems that you are talking about switch_mm-like things or I misunderstood.
use_mm() actually changes ->mm, not only ->active_mm.

> So I object vet much to making kernel threads special on this context,
> unless the "special" bit is some VM_BUG_ON() or similar.

See above. Perhaps we can kill use_mm() (personally I don't think we should),
but until then vmacache needs this check afaics.

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-13 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-27 21:48 [PATCH v4] mm: per-thread vma caching Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-28  4:39 ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found] ` <20140303160021.3001634fa62781d7b0359158@linux-foundation.org>
2014-03-04  0:18   ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found] ` <20140303164002.02df915e12d05bb98762407f@linux-foundation.org>
2014-03-04  0:59   ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found]     ` <20140303172348.3f00c9df.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2014-03-04  2:42       ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found]         ` <20140303191224.96f93142.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2014-03-04  3:13           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-04  3:26             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-04  5:32               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-14  3:05               ` Li Zefan
2014-03-14  4:43                 ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-06 22:56     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found] ` <20140308184040.GA29602@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <CA+55aFw88xiY+o5FE6VtHNkpUZDK3FPt31oCpNsgn1BH7wAPZw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-03-08 19:57     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]     ` <20140308194405.GA32403@redhat.com>
2014-03-08 20:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-09  3:22         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-09 12:57         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-09 15:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-09 17:09             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-09 17:16               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-10 19:56                 ` [PATCH -next] mm,vmacache: also flush cache for VM_CLONE Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-13 14:59                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-13 15:32                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-13 19:04                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found]                     ` <CA+55aFyNd7L+G3hFauJPxUOengK-_o2G-SFmVooPZ-sE6xBj=g@mail.gmail.com>
2014-03-13 16:36                       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-03-13 18:27                         ` async_pf.c && use_mm() (Was: mm,vmacache: also flush cache for VM_CLONE) Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                           ` <CA+55aFwqTbsYCyPf6_i6RmBkPHpEhJjiRfZm6_1_yPa_kUkYiQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-03-13 21:44                             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-14 18:23                               ` Oleg Nesterov

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