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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt.fleming@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 03/11] perf: Allow for multiple ring buffers per event
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:44:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140314104415.GS27965@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140310172440.GG13302@tassilo.jf.intel.com>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:24:40AM -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > Wouldn't we have to teach a ton of code how to be IRQ safe for this to
> > > work?  Just step one: how do we go modifying page tables safely from an
> > > interrupt?  mm->page_table_lock is a plain non-irq spinlock.
> > 
> > Yes, this does look more than just tricky even if we move the bulk of
> > interrupt code to an irq_work. Peter, are you quite sure this is what we
> > want to do just for exporting trace buffers to userspace?
> 
> The other big problem is scalability. Even if it was somehow possible
> to make this scheme work the IPIs for flushing would kill performance 
> on any multi threaded client.  Given perf is not multi-threaded today, but
> it doesn't seem a good idea to design the interface assuming no client ever
> will be.

Well any mmap()ed interface that wants to swap buffers will have this
same problem.

You can restrict the TLB flushing to the threads that poll() on the
relevant events. This just means other threads will see old/partial
data, but that shouldn't be a problem as they shouldn't be looking in
the first place.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-14 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-06 10:50 [PATCH v1 00/11] perf: Add support for Intel Processor Trace Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 10:50 ` [PATCH v1 01/11] x86: Add Intel Processor Trace (INTEL_PT) cpu feature detection Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 10:50 ` [PATCH v1 02/11] perf: Abstract ring_buffer backing store operations Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 10:50 ` [PATCH v1 03/11] perf: Allow for multiple ring buffers per event Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-17 14:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-18  2:36     ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-14 10:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-14 14:10         ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-18 14:06           ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-19 22:02     ` Dave Hansen
2014-03-10  9:59       ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-03-10 17:24         ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-14 10:44           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-03-14 14:13             ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-14 10:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-07 15:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-07 19:25     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-05-07 21:08     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-07 21:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-08  3:26         ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-05-08  4:05     ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-05-08  9:08       ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-05-08 12:34     ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-05-08 12:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-08 12:46         ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-05-08 14:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-06 10:50 ` [PATCH v1 04/11] itrace: Infrastructure for instruction flow tracing units Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 10:50 ` [PATCH v1 05/11] itrace: Add functionality to include traces in perf event samples Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 10:50 ` [PATCH v1 06/11] itrace: Add functionality to include traces in process core dumps Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 10:50 ` [PATCH v1 07/11] x86: perf: intel_pt: Intel PT PMU driver Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 20:29   ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-17 14:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-17 16:07     ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-17 14:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-18 12:42     ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 10:50 ` [PATCH v1 08/11] x86: perf: intel_pt: Add sampling functionality Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 10:50 ` [PATCH v1 09/11] x86: perf: intel_pt: Add core dump functionality Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 20:36   ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-07  9:03     ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 23:59   ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-07  9:09     ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 10:50 ` [PATCH v1 10/11] x86: perf: intel_bts: Add BTS PMU driver Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 10:50 ` [PATCH v1 11/11] x86: perf: intel_bts: Add core dump related functionality Alexander Shishkin
2014-02-06 23:57   ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-07  9:02     ` Alexander Shishkin

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