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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] perf: Fix a race between ring_buffer_detach() and ring_buffer_wakeup()
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:02:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140314230231.GM21124@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140314224317.GQ30956@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:43:17PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 01:47:37PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > This general idea can be made to work, but it will need some
> > internal-to-RCU help.  One vulnerability of the patch below is the
> > following sequence of steps:
> > 
> > 1.	RCU has just finished a grace period, and is doing the
> > 	end-of-grace-period accounting.
> > 
> > 2.	The code below invokes rcu_batches_completed().  Let's assume
> > 	the result returned is 42.
> > 
> > 3.	RCU completes the end-of-grace-period accounting, and increments
> > 	rcu_sched_state.completed.
> > 
> > 4.	The code below checks ->rcu_batches against the result from
> > 	another invocation of rcu_batches_completed() and sees that
> > 	the 43 is not equal to 42, so skips the synchronize_rcu().
> > 
> > Except that a grace period has not actually completed.  Boom!!!
> > 
> > The problem is that rcu_batches_completed() is only intended to give
> > progress information on RCU.
> 
> Ah, I thought I was missing something when I was looking through the rcu
> code in a hurry :-)

Well, given that I sometimes miss things when looking through RCU code
carefuly, I guess I cannot give you too much trouble about it.

> I knew there'd be some subtlety between completed and gpnum and such :-)

Some of which I have learned about one RCU bug at a time.  ;-)

> > What I can do is give you a pair of functions, one to take a snapshot of
> > the current grace-period state (returning an unsigned long) and another
> > to evaluate a previous snapshot, invoking synchronize_rcu() if there has
> > not been a full grace period in the meantime.
> > 
> > The most straightforward approach would invoke acquiring the global
> > rcu_state ->lock on each call, which I am guessing just might be
> > considered to be excessive overhead.  ;-)  I should be able to decrease
> > the overhead to a memory barrier on each call, and perhaps even down
> > to an smp_load_acquire().  Accessing the RCU state probably costs you
> > a cache miss both times.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> 
> Sounds fine, the attach isn't a hotpath, so even the locked version
> should be fine, but I won't keep you from making it all fancy and such
> :-)

Fair enough, let me see what I can come up with.

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-14 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-07 13:38 [PATCH] [RFC] perf: Fix a race between ring_buffer_detach() and ring_buffer_wakeup() Alexander Shishkin
2014-03-13 19:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-14  9:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-14 20:47     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-14 22:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-14 23:02         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-03-15  0:00           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-17 11:18             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-17 16:48               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-17 17:30                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-18  2:45                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-18  8:26                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-07 12:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-07 18:06       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-08 15:37         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-05-08 16:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-19 12:48       ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix a race between ring_buffer_detach() and ring_buffer_attach() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra

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