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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, mingo@elte.hu, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: cond_resched() and RCU CPU stall warnings
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 23:25:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140316062501.GX21124@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1394950182.5470.15.camel@marge.simpson.net>

On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 07:09:42AM +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 18:59 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: 
> > So I have been tightening up rcutorture a bit over the past year.
> > The other day, I came across what looked like a great opportunity for
> > further tightening, namely the schedule() in rcu_torture_reader().
> > Why not turn this into a cond_resched(), speeding up the readers a bit
> > and placing more stress on RCU?
> > 
> > And boy does it increase stress!
> > 
> > Unfortunately, this increased stress sometimes shows up in the form of
> > lots of RCU CPU stall warnings.  These can appear when an instance of
> > rcu_torture_reader() gets a CPU to itself, in which case it won't ever
> > enter the scheduler, and RCU will never see a quiescent state from that
> > CPU, which means the grace period never ends.
> > 
> > So I am taking a more measured approach to cond_resched() in
> > rcu_torture_reader() for the moment.
> > 
> > But longer term, should cond_resched() imply a set of RCU
> > quiescent states?  One way to do this would be to add calls to
> > rcu_note_context_switch() in each of the various cond_resched() functions.
> > Easy change, but of course adds some overhead.  On the other hand,
> > there might be more than a few of the 500+ calls to cond_resched() that
> > expect that RCU CPU stalls will be prevented (to say nothing of
> > might_sleep() and cond_resched_lock()).
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > (Untested patch below, FWIW.)
> > 
> > 							Thanx, Paul
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > index b46131ef6aab..994d2b0fd0b2 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > @@ -4075,6 +4075,9 @@ int __sched _cond_resched(void)
> >  		__cond_resched();
> >  		return 1;
> >  	}
> > +	preempt_disable();
> > +	rcu_note_context_switch(smp_processor_id());
> > +	preempt_enable();
> >  	return 0;
> >  }
> >  EXPORT_SYMBOL(_cond_resched);
> 
> Hm.  Since you only care about the case where your task is solo, how
> about do racy checks, 100% accuracy isn't required is it?  Seems you
> wouldn't want to unconditionally do that in tight loops.

And indeed, my current workaround unconditionally does schedule() one
out of 256 loops.  I would do something similar here, perhaps based
on per-CPU counters, perhaps even with racy accesses to avoid always
doing preempt_disable()/preempt_enable().

Or did you have something else in mind?

							Thanx, Paul


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-16  6:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-16  1:59 cond_resched() and RCU CPU stall warnings Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-16  6:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-03-16  6:14   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-03-16  6:27     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-16  6:25   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-03-16  7:30     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-03-17 10:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-17 16:58   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-17 17:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-18  2:17       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-18  8:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-18 12:49           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-18 13:45             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-18 15:15               ` Paul E. McKenney

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