* Replacing GNU
@ 2014-04-01 23:26 Andrew Stephenson
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From: Andrew Stephenson @ 2014-04-01 23:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
What is the consensus on replacing GNU with software that won't become GPLv3 in the future, with the latest gcc for example.
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* Re: Replacing GNU
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@ 2014-04-02 2:03 ` Andrew Stephenson
2014-04-02 2:46 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-02 4:40 ` David Lang
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From: Andrew Stephenson @ 2014-04-02 2:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Lang; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List
Ah, so there is a Free Software camp and an Open Source camp within the Linux Kernel Mailing List.
> On 2 Apr 2014, at 11:45 am, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
>
> There is no concensus, some people are working hard to do so, others love GPLv3
>
> David Lang
>
>> On Wed, 2 Apr 2014, Andrew Stephenson wrote:
>>
>> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:26:44 +1100
>> From: Andrew Stephenson <aste9@icloud.com>
>> To: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
>> Subject: Replacing GNU
>> What is the consensus on replacing GNU with software that won't become GPLv3 in the future, with the latest gcc for example.
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* Re: Replacing GNU
2014-04-02 2:03 ` Andrew Stephenson
@ 2014-04-02 2:46 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-02 4:40 ` David Lang
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From: Theodore Ts'o @ 2014-04-02 2:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Stephenson; +Cc: David Lang, Linux Kernel Mailing List
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 01:03:13PM +1100, Andrew Stephenson wrote:
> Ah, so there is a Free Software camp and an Open Source camp within
> the Linux Kernel Mailing List.
There is a strong consensus that the Linux kernel should remain GPLv2,
and many senior kernel developers (including Linus) have an extremely
strong dislike of the GPLv3's anti-Tivo clauses. I suspect many of us
regret that license incompatibilities caused by some code being
licensed under GPLv2 only, and some code being licensed under GPLv3,
but that's an issue that you need to talk to the FSF about.
As far as the kernel is concerned, it doesn't use the gcc runtime
library, so issues about GPLv3 are simply simply not a major concern
for most linux kernel developers.
Questions about what the implications are of GPLv3 licensed code in
userspace really are out of scope of the LKML mailing list. If you
care about such things, I suggest you talk to your lawyers.
Cheers,
- Ted
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* Re: Replacing GNU
2014-04-02 2:03 ` Andrew Stephenson
2014-04-02 2:46 ` Theodore Ts'o
@ 2014-04-02 4:40 ` David Lang
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From: David Lang @ 2014-04-02 4:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Stephenson; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List
you are going to find both camps (and everything in between) as well as people
who see nothing wrong with proprietary software involved with any open/free
software project. The bigger the project, the more variation you will see.
The kernel is GPLv2, so there are not big discussions about it except sometimes
at the edge where interfacing with third party software.
David Lang
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014, Andrew Stephenson wrote:
> Ah, so there is a Free Software camp and an Open Source camp within the Linux Kernel Mailing List.
>
>> On 2 Apr 2014, at 11:45 am, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
>>
>> There is no concensus, some people are working hard to do so, others love GPLv3
>>
>> David Lang
>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Apr 2014, Andrew Stephenson wrote:
>>>
>>> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:26:44 +1100
>>> From: Andrew Stephenson <aste9@icloud.com>
>>> To: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
>>> Subject: Replacing GNU
>>> What is the consensus on replacing GNU with software that won't become GPLv3 in the future, with the latest gcc for example.
>>> --
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