linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com>,
	Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lpoetter@redhat.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, kay@redhat.com,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PASSCGROUP to enable passing cgroup path
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:12:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140417171256.GB25334@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXj6kD3E+vsaWmkrSbaQYTu=c-Hsw640jh4O+FbojYk2g@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 09:55:08AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 09:37 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 09:11 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> No.  The logging daemon thinks it wants to know who the writer is, but
> >> >> the logging daemon is wrong.  It actually wants to know who composed a
> >> >> log message destined to it.  The caller of write(2) may or may not be
> >> >> the same entity.
> >> >
> >> > This works both ways, and doesn't really matter, you are *no* better off
> >> > w/o this interface.
> >> >
> >> >> If this form of SO_PASSCGROUP somehow makes it into a pull request for
> >> >> Linus, I will ask him not to pull it and/or to revert it.  I think
> >> >> he'll agree that write(2) MUST NOT care who called it.
> >> >
> >> > And write() does not, there is no access control check being performed
> >> > here. This call is the same as getting the pid of the process and
> >> > crawling /proc with that information, just more efficient and race-free.
> >>
> >> Doing it using the pid of writer is wrong.  So is doing it with the
> >> cgroup of the writer.  The fact that it's even possible to use the pid
> >> of the caller of write(2) is a mistake, but that particular mistake
> >> is, unfortunately, well-enshrined in history.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I repeat, it is *not* access control.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Sure it is.
> >>
> >> Either correct attribution of logs doesn't matter, in which case it
> >> makes little difference how you do it, or it does matter, in which
> >> case it should be done right.
> >
> > Well journald can *also* get  SO_PEERCGROUP and log anomalies if the 2
> > differ. That is if the log happens on a connected socket.
> >
> > If the log happens on a unix datagram* then SO_PEERCGROUP is not
> > available because there is no connect(), however write() cannot be used
> > either, only sendmsg() AFAIK, so the "setuid" binary attack does not
> > apply.
> >
> 
> Or you could only send SCM_CGROUP when the writer asks sendmsg to send
> it, in which case this whole problem goes away.

Sending SCM_CGROUP explicitly is also sending cgroup info at write(2) time
and if receiver uses that info for access control, it can be problematic.

Thanks
Vivek

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-17 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-15 21:15 [PATCH 0/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP and SO_PASSCGROUP socket options Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:54   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16  0:22     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PASSCGROUP to enable passing cgroup path Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:53   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-15 23:09     ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16  0:20     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16  1:05       ` David Miller
2014-04-16  3:47       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 10:17         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 14:34           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 15:10             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 12:57         ` David Miller
2014-04-16 14:37           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 16:13             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 16:21               ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-16 16:54                 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 16:31               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 17:02                 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 17:29                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 17:34                     ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 17:53                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:36                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:40                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:51                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:59                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:06                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:13                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:25                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:35                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 19:06                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 19:13                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 19:39                             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 20:24                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 13:41                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:59                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 15:41                       ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-17 16:04                         ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:11                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:24                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:37                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:48                                 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:55                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:12                                     ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2014-04-17 17:26                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:33                                         ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 17:35                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:47                                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 18:05                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:23                                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 18:33                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:50                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 18:57                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 19:06                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 19:15                                                     ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 19:19                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 19:10                                                 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 19:16                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 19:46                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-21 15:03                                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-21 15:47                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23 15:07                                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 15:37                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23 16:01                                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 19:23                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:52                                         ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 18:04                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:31                                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:38                             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 16:05                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:12                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 16:45         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 17:29           ` David Miller
2014-04-24 20:34             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-24 20:48               ` David Miller
2014-04-24 21:04                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-24 21:11                   ` David Miller
2014-04-25  0:29                     ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-22 20:05 ` [PATCH 0/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP and SO_PASSCGROUP socket options David Miller
2014-04-22 20:08   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-22 20:29     ` David Miller
2014-04-22 20:31       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-22 20:32         ` David Miller
2014-04-23  0:37           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23 19:05         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 20:53           ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-24 13:01             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 15:55   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 16:16     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 17:21     ` Andy Lutomirski

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20140417171256.GB25334@redhat.com \
    --to=vgoyal@redhat.com \
    --cc=cgroups@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=dwalsh@redhat.com \
    --cc=kay@redhat.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=lpoetter@redhat.com \
    --cc=luto@amacapital.net \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=ssorce@redhat.com \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).