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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lpoetter@redhat.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, kay@redhat.com,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PASSCGROUP to enable passing cgroup path
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:57:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140417185742.GB32527@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140417185023.GA32527@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 02:50:23PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 02:23:33PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 10:35 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 10:26 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Not really.  write(2) can't send SCM_CGROUP.  Callers of sendmsg(2)
> > > >> who supply SCM_CGROUP are explicitly indicating that they want their
> > > >> cgroup associated with that message.  Callers of write(2) and send(2)
> > > >> are simply indicating that they have some bytes that they want to
> > > >> shove into whatever's at the other end of the fd.
> > > >
> > > > But there is no attack vector that passes by tricking setuid binaries to
> > > > write to pre-opened file descriptors on sendmsg(), and for the other
> > > > cases (connected socket) journald can always cross check with
> > > > SO_PEERCGROUP, so why do we care again ?
> > > 
> > > Because the proposed code does not do what I described, at least as
> > > far I as I can tell.
> > 
> > Ok let me backtrack, apparently if you explicitly use connect() on a
> > datagram socket then you *can* write() (thanks to Vivek for checking
> > this).
> > 
> > So you can trick something to write() to it but you can't do
> > SO_PEERCGROUP on the other side, because it is not really a connected
> > socket, the connection is only faked on the sender side by constructing
> > sendmsg() messages with the original address passed into connect().
> > 
> > So given this unfortunate circumstance, requiring the client to
> > explicitly pass cgroup data on unix datagram sockets may be an
> > acceptable request IMO.
> > 
> > Perhaps this could be done with a sendmsg() header flag or simplified
> > ancillary data even, rather than forcing the sender process to retrieve
> > and construct the whole information which is already available in
> > kernel.
> 
> So what would be the protocol here? When should somebody send an
> SCM_CGROUP message using sendmsg()?

I don't know how it will even be used for systemd logging case. systemd
provides various ways to connect stdout of services. So say a service's
stdout is connected to a connected datagram socket and all printf()
messages to stdout are being logged by receiver in journal. Now how
would sender know that it is supposed to send SCM_CGROUP? One needs
to modify printf() now?

Thanks
Vivek

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-17 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-15 21:15 [PATCH 0/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP and SO_PASSCGROUP socket options Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:54   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16  0:22     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PASSCGROUP to enable passing cgroup path Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:53   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-15 23:09     ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16  0:20     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16  1:05       ` David Miller
2014-04-16  3:47       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 10:17         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 14:34           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 15:10             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 12:57         ` David Miller
2014-04-16 14:37           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 16:13             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 16:21               ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-16 16:54                 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 16:31               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 17:02                 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 17:29                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 17:34                     ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 17:53                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:36                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:40                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:51                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:59                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:06                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:13                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:25                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:35                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 19:06                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 19:13                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 19:39                             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 20:24                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 13:41                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:59                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 15:41                       ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-17 16:04                         ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:11                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:24                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:37                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:48                                 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:55                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:12                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 17:26                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:33                                         ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 17:35                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:47                                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 18:05                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:23                                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 18:33                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:50                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 18:57                                                 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2014-04-17 19:06                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 19:15                                                     ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 19:19                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 19:10                                                 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 19:16                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 19:46                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-21 15:03                                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-21 15:47                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23 15:07                                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 15:37                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23 16:01                                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 19:23                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:52                                         ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 18:04                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:31                                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:38                             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 16:05                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:12                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 16:45         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 17:29           ` David Miller
2014-04-24 20:34             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-24 20:48               ` David Miller
2014-04-24 21:04                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-24 21:11                   ` David Miller
2014-04-25  0:29                     ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-22 20:05 ` [PATCH 0/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP and SO_PASSCGROUP socket options David Miller
2014-04-22 20:08   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-22 20:29     ` David Miller
2014-04-22 20:31       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-22 20:32         ` David Miller
2014-04-23  0:37           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23 19:05         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 20:53           ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-24 13:01             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 15:55   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 16:16     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 17:21     ` Andy Lutomirski

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