From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, joern@logfs.org,
peterz@infradead.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
cxie@redhat.com, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] sysrq: rcu-ify __handle_sysrq
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 18:46:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140424014648.GK4496@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1404232349350.1491@twin.jikos.cz>
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:51:55PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014, Rik van Riel wrote:
>
> > >> Echoing values into /proc/sysrq-trigger seems to be a popular way to
> > >> get information out of the kernel. However, dumping information about
> > >> thousands of processes, or hundreds of CPUs to serial console can
> > >> result in IRQs being blocked for minutes, resulting in various kinds
> > >> of cascade failures.
> > >>
> > >> The most common failure is due to interrupts being blocked for a very
> > >> long time. This can lead to things like failed IO requests, and other
> > >> things the system cannot easily recover from.
> > >>
> > >> This problem is easily fixable by making __handle_sysrq use RCU
> > >> instead of spin_lock_irqsave.
> > >>
> > >> This leaves the warning that RCU grace periods have not elapsed for a
> > >> long time, but the system will come back from that automatically.
> > >
> > > This, however, will make RCU stall detector to send NMI to all online CPUs
> > > so that they can dump their stacks.
Hey, if dumping the stacks once is a good idea, dumping them twice
must be twice as good, right? ;-)
> > It already does that, since several of the longer-running
> > sysrq handlers already grab rcu_read_lock(), for example
> > show_state().
> >
> > > IOW, this might actually make the whole sysrq dump last for much longer,
> > > and have the log polluted with all-CPU dumps for no good reason.
> > >
> > > I wonder whether explicitly setting rcu_cpu_stall_suppress during sysrq
> > > handling might be a viable workaround for this.
> >
> > I suppose that would do the trick.
>
> I can imagine Paul opposing this though ... this variable is supposed to
> be changed only by cmdline/modparam, not really flipped during runtime as
> a bandaid ... let's add Paul to CC.
Well, we already crowbar it to 1 when panic starts, see rcu_panic().
How about something like the following?
void rcu_sysrq_start(void)
{
rcu_cpu_stall_suppress = 2;
}
void rcu_sysrq_end(void)
{
if (rcu_cpu_stall_suppress == 2)
rcu_cpu_stall_suppress = 0;
}
If there get to be too many more different reasons for temporarily
suppressing RCU CPU stall warnings, I can then swap out to a better
implementation, for some definition or another of "better".
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-24 1:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-23 16:53 [PATCH RFC] sysrq: rcu-ify __handle_sysrq Rik van Riel
2014-04-23 20:04 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-23 20:44 ` Rik van Riel
2014-04-23 21:39 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-23 21:41 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-23 21:44 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-23 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-23 21:37 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-23 21:42 ` Rik van Riel
2014-04-23 21:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-24 1:46 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-04-24 13:04 ` [PATCH RFC] sysrq,rcu: suppress RCU stall warnings while sysrq runs Rik van Riel
2014-04-24 15:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-04-25 5:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24 0:52 ` [PATCH RFC] sysrq: rcu-ify __handle_sysrq Jörn Engel
2014-04-24 19:40 ` [PATCH] printk: Print cpu number along with time Jörn Engel
2014-04-24 19:58 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-04-24 21:23 ` Jörn Engel
2014-04-24 22:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-24 22:18 ` David Rientjes
2014-04-24 22:21 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-24 23:29 ` Jörn Engel
2014-04-24 22:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-04-28 23:40 ` Jörn Engel
2014-04-29 0:22 ` Andrew Morton
2014-06-04 23:15 ` Jörn Engel
2014-06-04 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2014-06-04 23:49 ` Jörn Engel
2014-09-09 17:16 ` Jörn Engel
2014-09-10 21:26 ` Andrew Morton
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