From: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Marian Marinov <mm@1h.com>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
lxc-devel <lxc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: ioctl CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE is checked in the wrong namespace
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:16:41 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140430001641.GA28969@ubuntumail> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53602B84.1020304@mit.edu>
Quoting Andy Lutomirski (luto@amacapital.net):
> On 04/29/2014 03:29 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> > Quoting Marian Marinov (mm-108MBtLGafw@public.gmane.org):
> >> On 04/30/2014 01:02 AM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> >>> Quoting Marian Marinov (mm-108MBtLGafw@public.gmane.org):
> >>>> On 04/29/2014 09:52 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> >>>>> Quoting Theodore Ts'o (tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org):
> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 04:49:14PM +0300, Marian Marinov wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm proposing a fix to this, by replacing the capable(CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE)
> >>>>>>> check with ns_capable(current_cred()->user_ns, CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Um, wouldn't it be better to simply fix the capable() function?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> /**
> >>>>>> * capable - Determine if the current task has a superior capability in effect
> >>>>>> * @cap: The capability to be tested for
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>> * Return true if the current task has the given superior capability currently
> >>>>>> * available for use, false if not.
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>> * This sets PF_SUPERPRIV on the task if the capability is available on the
> >>>>>> * assumption that it's about to be used.
> >>>>>> */
> >>>>>> bool capable(int cap)
> >>>>>> {
> >>>>>> return ns_capable(&init_user_ns, cap);
> >>>>>> }
> >>>>>> EXPORT_SYMBOL(capable);
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The documentation states that it is for "the current task", and I
> >>>>>> can't imagine any use case, where user namespaces are in effect, where
> >>>>>> using init_user_ns would ever make sense.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the init_user_ns represents the user_ns owning the object, not the
> >>>>> subject.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The patch by Marian is wrong. Anyone can do 'clone(CLONE_NEWUSER)',
> >>>>> setuid(0), execve, and end up satisfying 'ns_capable(current_cred()->userns,
> >>>>> CAP_SYS_IMMUTABLE)' by definition.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So NACK to that particular patch. I'm not sure, but IIUC it should be
> >>>>> safe to check against the userns owning the inode?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> So what you are proposing is to replace 'ns_capable(current_cred()->userns, CAP_SYS_IMMUTABLE)' with
> >>>> 'inode_capable(inode, CAP_SYS_IMMUTABLE)' ?
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree that this is more sane.
> >>>
> >>> Right, and I think the two operations you're looking at seem sane
> >>> to allow.
> >>
> >> If you are ok with this patch, I will fix all file systems and send patches.
> >
> > Sounds good, thanks.
> >
> >> Signed-off-by: Marian Marinov <mm-NV7Lj0SOnH0@public.gmane.org>
> >
> > Acked-by: Serge E. Hallyn <serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>
> Wait, what?
>
> Inodes aren't owned by user namespaces; they're owned by users. And any
> user can arrange to have a user namespace in which they pass an
> inode_capable check on any inode that they own.
>
> Presumably there's a reason that CAP_SYS_IMMUTABLE is needed. If this
Sigh, yeah... I just dont' understand what it is. But you're right.
> gets merged, then it would be better to just drop CAP_SYS_IMMUTABLE
> entirely.
>
> Nacked-by: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
I forget the details, but there was another case where I wanted to
have the userns which 'owns' the whole fs available. I guess we'd
have to check against that instead of using inode_capable.
-serge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-30 0:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-29 13:49 ioctl CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE is checked in the wrong namespace Marian Marinov
2014-04-29 18:35 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-29 18:52 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-29 21:49 ` Marian Marinov
2014-04-29 22:02 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-29 22:24 ` Marian Marinov
2014-04-29 22:29 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-29 22:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-29 23:06 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-29 23:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-29 23:20 ` Marian Marinov
2014-04-29 23:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-29 23:47 ` Stéphane Graber
2014-04-29 23:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-30 0:01 ` Stéphane Graber
2014-04-30 0:10 ` Marian Marinov
2014-04-30 0:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-30 0:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-30 0:21 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-30 0:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-30 0:44 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-30 1:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-30 0:16 ` Serge Hallyn [this message]
2014-04-30 0:32 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-30 0:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-30 0:40 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-30 7:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-30 13:33 ` Serge Hallyn
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