From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Dempsky <mdempsky@chromium.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Julien Tinnes <jln@chromium.org>,
Roland McGrath <mcgrathr@chromium.org>,
Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] ptrace: Fix fork event messages across pid namespaces
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:51:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140430115155.GA6077@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1398818077-25107-1-git-send-email-mdempsky@chromium.org>
On 04/29, Matthew Dempsky wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > More Oleg review would be nice, please ;)
>
> FWIW, Oleg "acked" v4 earlier in the thread. Are you asking for
> further review from him beyond that?
Yes, still/again
Acked-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
> > Well that's a scary comment. If we're going to leave the code in this
> > state then please carefully describe (within this comment) the
> > *consequences* of the race. Does the kernel crash? Give away your ssh
> > keys? If not then what.
>
> Sorry, I can see how that comment could be scary without proper
> context. I added another sentence explaining the consequences are
> limited to the ptracer receiving a bogus pid_t value from
> PTRACE_GETEVENTMSG.
>
> > And how would userspace recognize and/or recover from the race?
>
> If the ptracer attaches via PTRACE_ATTACH, then there shouldn't be a
> race: the ptracer can't use PTRACE_SETOPTIONS to request fork events
> until after the child has already stopped. So any SIGTRAP fork events
> that it receives before using PTRACE_SETOPTIONS it should disregard,
> because it hasn't asked the kernel to send them yet.
>
> If the ptracer attaches via PTRACE_SEIZE and also requests fork events
> at the same time, then it would need to discard the first SIGTRAP it
> receives for the child if:
>
> 1. it's a fork event;
> 2. the ptracer can't otherwise prove the fork happened after the
> PTRACE_SEIZE rather than concurrently; and
> 3. the ptracer is concerned a ptracer from a different pid namespace
> may have just detached.
And I think we should just ignore this very unlikely and harmless race.
We do not see a simple way to close it and in fact this ptrace_event() is
inherently racy anyway. Even without namespaces, if we race with DETACH +
ATTACH, the new tracer gets the correct child's pid, but the child can be
already untraced.
_Perhaps_ we can do something better later (to remind, we can setup
->ptrace_message beforehand and change ATTACH to clear it), but this is
more subtle and needs more changes.
This patch is straightforward, and it fixes the old/known problem: currently
this pid_t is always wrong unless the tracer is from the root namespace.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-30 11:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1396288478-1314-1-git-send-email-mdempsky@chromium.org>
[not found] ` <20140331181651.GA27686@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <CAF52+S5i7oqJnJ1NN0bk5Vg=CiYrussw0AunteE72kMMcWkeJA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-04-01 18:52 ` [PATCH v2] Fix ptrace events across pid namespaces Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-01 20:44 ` Matthew Dempsky
2014-04-01 22:29 ` [PATCH v3] ptrace: Fix fork event messages " Matthew Dempsky
2014-04-02 0:39 ` Matthew Dempsky
2014-04-02 14:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 0/1] pid_namespace: pidns_get() should check task_active_pid_ns() != NULL Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-02 15:45 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-02 16:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-02 15:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-02 22:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-02 21:58 ` [PATCH v3] ptrace: Fix fork event messages across pid namespaces Matthew Dempsky
2014-04-02 22:37 ` Matthew Dempsky
2014-04-07 19:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-03 2:26 ` [PATCH v4] " Matthew Dempsky
2014-04-03 15:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-03 16:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-03 18:07 ` Matthew Dempsky
2014-04-07 19:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-29 20:20 ` [RESEND PATCH " Matthew Dempsky
2014-04-29 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-30 0:34 ` [PATCH v5] " Matthew Dempsky
2014-04-30 11:51 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-04-30 20:16 ` Andrew Morton
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